New Walt Disney World logo,

AndyS2992

Well-Known Member
Anyone remember when they tried to use a script logo in DL?
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I actually like this logo o_O
 

GeorgiaPinesRJB

Well-Known Member
You don't find it in all offices. And you used the phrase "mutually exclusive" incorrectly. I'm not sure exactly what you meant, but I think you might have meant that Disney isn't the only place that is being run by dimwits.

Do you work for Disney?

Yeah I just meant exclusive, no idea why I shoved mutually in front of it since that changes the meaning. This is what happens when you're typing fast and don't self-edit. But yes, that is what I meant: that Disney isn't the only place you find people in charge who may or may not be the best persons to be at the helm. And no, I don't work for Disney.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
I like the original EPCOT logo best... Is that to return as well? I know I posted the merch pics up with the retro EPCOT logo... wonder if that will be on guidebooks and such in the future.
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I like the original EPCOT logo best... Is that to return as well? I know I posted the merch pics up with the retro EPCOT logo... wonder if that will be on guidebooks and such in the future.
Hint;: Take a look at the new Test Track Merchandise.
 

BigThunderMatt

Well-Known Member
I can imagine how long it takes the average Disney Attraction CM to clear $350.

More than 40 hours. Especially if you're making base-rate getting just hired in. And that's BEFORE taxes and potentially benefits (if you're full-time).

But dearie me, what kind of malcontent is concerned with money when they're working in such a magical place? Why, I would work there for free it's so wonderful and perfect.
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Yeah I was the one who first posted them. I just wonder if it was just for the TT merch or if it was going to be park wide and permenant.
I would think it would be permanent. After all it was rumored after the Magic Kindom Parking lot Entry re-do that Epcot was next. Also, Marty Sklar verbally trashed the current Epcot logo on the 30th Anniversary.
 

yeti

Well-Known Member
I actually like it. It sort of runs against the "homogeneity" of every park carrying the same banner. In fact I'm a litte surprised by it...would've thought they'd just rename the place "Disney" and get it over with.

My cynical side says they're just messing with nostalgia again.
 

pumpkin7

Well-Known Member
SIGH! No more removing Walt's name from things. They already did that with the Walt Disney Pictures title card.
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This annoys the frick out of me every time I see it! It's obviously getting worse now as they've started to omit 'Walt' from the DVD cases of classics like Dumbo.
I live in the UK and I'm under 25 and I know exactly who Walt Disney is and how much blood, sweat and tears went into the founding of the company, and how he risked everything he had on Snow White etc. I know that Roy O Disney changed the name of Disney World to Walt Disney World for his brother, as he didn't live long enough to see his dreams realised, and how Roy lived just long enough to open the MK, before also passing away.
I think it really sucks that they are just dismissing the fact that they think 'oh, no one knows who the Disney Brothers are any more, and Disney is a massive co orperation and we just want to make money so lets forget about them.'
I mean, obviously they still have One Mans Dream which I'm really looking forward to seeing for the first time in June. It's just so sad that the brothers own Company are just trying to wipe them from the company. I know Walt's been gone a long time, and what he knew as the motion picture business is a million miles from what he knew, but still, I don't think he deserves to be forgotten by his own company.

i hardly think it'd be dishonoring anything since the name DISNEY is still there... i know it's the company's name but it's still a person's name, mind you. so the identity of the man is diminished just because his first name isn't there? no the last name means nothing since it's the name of the now famous company. which was made famous because of him.

Well, yeah because people don't understand that it's a person. It's like, it's just a company. It's like any big company. You lose the person who started it, and it's just a company who make money, and no one is interested in it's history or who founded it or what crap they had to go through get to where the company is today.
Take any big company like, I don't know, do you guys have Harry Ramsdens in the USA? Obviously Harry Ramsden founded the company and it probably has a really interesting history. Granted he makes fish n chips but still. Take away Harry and you're just left with Ramsdens. It's just a company then.

Roy Disney felt very differently, to the point that he scolded employees who dropped the "Walt" when speaking with him. It was very important to him that his brother's name be specifically attached to the project. So yes, it would be dishonoring Roy Disney who, instead of retiring, spent the last years of his life opening Phase I of Walt Disney World.

Exactly! Roy was a great man, who sacrificed any retirement plans just to see Walt's dream become a reality. He worked hard every year of his life, the same as Walt.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
This annoys the frick out of me every time I see it! It's obviously getting worse now as they've started to omit 'Walt' from the DVD cases of classics like Dumbo.
I live in the UK and I'm under 25 and I know exactly who Walt Disney is and how much blood, sweat and tears went into the founding of the company, and how he risked everything he had on Snow White etc. I know that Roy O Disney changed the name of Disney World to Walt Disney World for his brother, as he didn't live long enough to see his dreams realised, and how Roy lived just long enough to open the MK, before also passing away.
I think it really sucks that they are just dismissing the fact that they think 'oh, no one knows who the Disney Brothers are any more, and Disney is a massive co orperation and we just want to make money so lets forget about them.'
I mean, obviously they still have One Mans Dream which I'm really looking forward to seeing for the first time in June. It's just so sad that the brothers own Company are just trying to wipe them from the company. I know Walt's been gone a long time, and what he knew as the motion picture business is a million miles from what he knew, but still, I don't think he deserves to be forgotten by his own company.



Well, yeah because people don't understand that it's a person. It's like, it's just a company. It's like any big company. You lose the person who started it, and it's just a company who make money, and no one is interested in it's history or who founded it or what crap they had to go through get to where the company is today.
Take any big company like, I don't know, do you guys have Harry Ramsdens in the USA? Obviously Harry Ramsden founded the company and it probably has a really interesting history. Granted he makes fish n chips but still. Take away Harry and you're just left with Ramsdens. It's just a company then.



Exactly! Roy was a great man, who sacrificed any retirement plans just to see Walt's dream become a reality. He worked hard every year of his life, the same as Walt.

The dropping of Walt in the pictures logo is due to Mobile phones. Smaller screens required a simpler logo that was more legibible. They signed a deal recently with YouTube to have their films available so it makes sense. TWDC (remember his name is still in the corporate name) won't be dropping Walt from WDW... If they were so hellbent from cleansing Walt they wouldn't have spent millions on Buena Vista St in DCA. They wouldn't have added his statue there either.

I understand the argument you make and the feelings this stirs up but you need not worry.
 

artbell2

Member
I really like the new "throwback" logo. There are a bunch of merch that can now be bought at the disney store. There is one tie dye shirt that I might even have to consider getting: http://www.disneystore.com/walt-disney-world-tie-dye-tee-for-adults-2013/mp/1322718/1000228/

I seem to think that the logo is just a "2013" logo and not a new park logo (that will be plastered over the main entrance, etc.), much like the design of the 40th anniversary logo was. It will be neat to see what the 50th Annivesary logo will look like.

I'm really glad that you can now find shirts with retro park signage/lettering. Likely they (Disney) knows that there is a really strong following out there for that kind of stuff.
 

COProgressFan

Well-Known Member
The dropping of Walt in the pictures logo is due to Mobile phones. Smaller screens required a simpler logo that was more legibible. They signed a deal recently with YouTube to have their films available so it makes sense. TWDC (remember his name is still in the corporate name) won't be dropping Walt from WDW... If they were so hellbent from cleansing Walt they wouldn't have spent millions on Buena Vista St in DCA. They wouldn't have added his statue there either.

I understand the argument you make and the feelings this stirs up but you need not worry.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

The reason "Walt" is removed from the title cards in the films is for "branding" purposes -- Walt is not in vogue with the execs in charge, but apparently the generic, corporate, soulless "Disney" brand is. In many ways, the current regime at TWDC would rather move on from "Walt" and everything he and his company stood for.

Smartphones and youtube had absolutely nothing to do with it. It's sickening either way.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

The reason "Walt" is removed from the title cards in the films is for "branding" purposes -- Walt is not in vogue with the execs in charge, but apparently the generic, corporate, soulless "Disney" brand is. In many ways, the current regime at TWDC would rather move on from "Walt" and everything he and his company stood for.

Smartphones and youtube had absolutely nothing to do with it. It's sickening either way.

Once again that isn't true. Look at DCA... Buena Vista Street is all Walt. Additionally, there was an article in the Wall Street Journal about Tim Cook (Apple's CEO) and he spoke on following Steve Jobs and the advice Jobs gave him. To sum it up... Jobs, who sat on Disney's board until the end of his life told him to be himself and use his own creativity. He referenced his experiences with Disney and how he believed there was too much talk of what Walt would do in executive meetings. Jobs believed if you tried too hard to emulate another person's vision and creativity, you'd stagnate your own and never truly achieve theirs. Although the point was made for other reasons, I think it shows that Walt still is highly regarded within the company. They may have changed the logo on films but they aren't cleansing themselves of Walt. The reasoning provided in my previous post was the one I found when researching this change.
 

Darth Sidious

Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
I really like the new "throwback" logo. There are a bunch of merch that can now be bought at the disney store. There is one tie dye shirt that I might even have to consider getting: http://www.disneystore.com/walt-disney-world-tie-dye-tee-for-adults-2013/mp/1322718/1000228/

I seem to think that the logo is just a "2013" logo and not a new park logo (that will be plastered over the main entrance, etc.), much like the design of the 40th anniversary logo was. It will be neat to see what the 50th Annivesary logo will look like.

I'm really glad that you can now find shirts with retro park signage/lettering. Likely they (Disney) knows that there is a really strong following out there for that kind of stuff.

I actually think this may be park wide and not just for merch. We have seen the rollout of the retro EPCOT logo as well and I don't see any reason to make a special logo for 2013. With the 40th anniversary it made sense for the event but now to do this without a celebration attached seems to be something different. Either way I am a fan of retro merch... I am currently looking for some retro New York Jets merch (in before the haha Jets jokes lol).
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Once again that isn't true. Look at DCA... Buena Vista Street is all Walt. Additionally, there was an article in the Wall Street Journal about Tim Cook (Apple's CEO) and he spoke on following Steve Jobs and the advice Jobs gave him. To sum it up... Jobs, who sat on Disney's board until the end of his life told him to be himself and use his own creativity. He referenced his experiences with Disney and how he believed there was too much talk of what Walt would do in executive meetings. Jobs believed if you tried too hard to emulate another person's vision and creativity, you'd stagnate your own and never truly achieve theirs. Although the point was made for other reasons, I think it shows that Walt still is highly regarded within the company. They may have changed the logo on films but they aren't cleansing themselves of Walt. The reasoning provided in my previous post was the one I found when researching this change.
Walt on Buena Vista Street is a shallow overlay that was likely tossed in to get the project approved so that it was associated with a franchise (the selling of Disney history). The reason of phone screens is simply ridiculous. The type of people who are going to be streaming full movies to a phone are not on some cheap Android device that is three versions behind. It was all part of the stupid branding movement away from the possessive. It's why new stuff went from "Disney's" to "Disney," "Disney's California Adventure" to "Disney California Adventure" and most recently the title card dropped "Walt" and "Pictures." It's a process that has been slowly moving forward for at least five years.
 

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