True. But if they don't have the tools to kill 50 people at once, the death toll will not be as high.
"Removing tools" is a generic statement.
I'm not blaming an inanimate object. I'm not blaming anything. This is a forum about Disney, so I'm not going to get this thread locked by really getting into this issue.
I found on my last trip I was selected a number of times. I don't fit racist profiles, but I was a solo, middle aged, male visitor. I'm sure that fits some profile that they are looking for.
Actually, I'd say yes to your two examples. I'd abolish speed limits and the drinking age. Other countries do fine without either. I don't think they accomplish much here. But I know that wasn't your point.
Has the second amendment been altered at all over the years to take into account the semi/fully automatic weapons that have become more prevelant in modern times ?Actually, I'd say yes to your two examples. I'd abolish speed limits and the drinking age. Other countries do fine without either. I don't think they accomplish much here. But I know that wasn't your point.
The flaw in your premise is that I don't accept that gun control laws reduce the problem in the case of guns. At all. I think they are absolutely, 100% ineffective. The only thing that they accomplish is disarming law-abiding citizens who are then unable to defend themselves. If you really want to do something about denying criminals guns, let's talk about actually dealing with the US-Mexican border and all of the illegal weapons that are funneling into criminal hands as a result of us not enforcing immigration law.
Regardless, though, if someone truly thinks that we can eliminate guns, fine. But let's have an honest debate about passing a constitutional amendment to either repeal or significantly modify the 2nd amendment. Until such time as the political and societal will can be mustered to do that, though, the 2nd Amendment is the law of the land. And the US Supreme Court has declared that it protects an individual right to keep and bear arms, not a societal one. So you can't just pass legislation. If we're being honest, we need to be talking about changing the constitution.
You beat me to it. Where are all the good guys with guns? Still waiting for just one of these tragedies to be stopped one.
Australia had a fairly effective response to a mass shooting a few years back. I'm hoping that we in this country will have the backbone and fortitude to do the same.
No call for being sensible round here.
No call for being sensible round here.
After Dunblaine handguns over .22 were banned in the UK and after Hungerford automatic type weapons were banned/restricted. Seems to be lot lower number of multiple shootings over here since then !
And no i am not anti gun, having grown up in a competition shooting household with rifles in the house.
The real problem with that philosophy is that this is a big world and we are not the only ones that live in it. Let's say, for example, that the event last night was a Moslem extremist action (and I am not saying that), how would our laws prevent them from finding a way to bring those "tools" in illegally. Do you now think that it wouldn't have happened because we made obtaining a gun a bigger problem for our citizens? I'm puzzled as to how it would affect anything at all other then eliminate our right to own guns. I might say that automatic weapons should not be allowed, but, even then someone will know how to make them automatic no matter what we do. The kicker is that there is nothing we can do about it until it is already used in a manner that all of us are concerned about. It's like stopping the ocean from reaching the shore.
And the second part of that fact is that we are not the only people with those weapons and our laws do not apply to the rest of the world. The second part of that fact is that you cannot stop those tools from existing except in limited areas. It is completely ineffective unless there is a security check point at ever intersection of every road in the world. Personally, I'd rather live in a certain amount of realistic fear then having a total police state. All you need to do is read some history to find out how that ends up. It isn't pretty.
