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Rumor New ride coming to Animal Kingdom. D23 announcement expected.

egg

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Another problem with Kali River Rapids is that there’s far more time after the first and only drop than before it, so riders are expecting something else reasonably exciting, probably another drop, and are left thinking “oh, that’s all?”. The poor pacing of the ride doesn’t help the fact that it’s quite short. I hope it’s improved but they’ll probably just add jungle book characters and call it a day.
 
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BlakeW39

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Since everyone's talking about Kali, I'll bite;

Kali River Rapids was designed to be Tiger River Run - the Asian counterpart to the iconic Kilimanjaro Safaris. So the rapids would presumably tame and the focus and draw of the ride would be that of Kilimanjaro Safaris. I presume that much like the poacher storyline of the Safari, the deforestation story of this ride would havw been secondary to wildlife.

The problem is that Tiger River Run was a poorly thought out ride. Rapids rides are not a good ride system for animal encountering; it's a terrible one. The rapids are problematic for the animals themselves, because they're loud and will cause stress for animal inhabitants, and the speed and general way of a rapid ride takes away from animal viewing; such a ride would need to be done with a boat similar to Jungle Cruise. So with that scrapped, you have Kali River Rapids.

Kali River Rapids is barebones as a concept without the animals. It is barebones because it:

1. Is too tame to rely all too much on thrills.
2. Does not have 'scenes' - only one. Scenes make the ride exciting, grandiose scenes are the fun climaxes of the ride. In Kali, there is only one scene so the rest is just wandering along a river; beautiful filler.
3. Is very thin on plot.
4. Without thrills, is far too short.

That said, if they put some money into it, it'd be a really good ride.
 

rle4lunch

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Since everyone's talking about Kali, I'll bite;

Kali River Rapids was designed to be Tiger River Run - the Asian counterpart to the iconic Kilimanjaro Safaris. So the rapids would presumably tame and the focus and draw of the ride would be that of Kilimanjaro Safaris. I presume that much like the poacher storyline of the Safari, the deforestation story of this ride would havw been secondary to wildlife.

The problem is that Tiger River Run was a poorly thought out ride. Rapids rides are not a good ride system for animal encountering; it's a terrible one. The rapids are problematic for the animals themselves, because they're loud and will cause stress for animal inhabitants, and the speed and general way of a rapid ride takes away from animal viewing; such a ride would need to be done with a boat similar to Jungle Cruise. So with that scrapped, you have Kali River Rapids.

Kali River Rapids is barebones as a concept without the animals. It is barebones because it:

1. Is too tame to rely all too much on thrills.
2. Does not have 'scenes' - only one. Scenes make the ride exciting, grandiose scenes are the fun climaxes of the ride. In Kali, there is only one scene so the rest is just wandering along a river; beautiful filler.
3. Is very thin on plot.
4. Without thrills, is far too short.

That said, if they put some money into it, it'd be a really good ride.
To make it a good ride, it needs another minute or so ride time.
 

Timothy_Q

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Since everyone's talking about Kali, I'll bite;

Kali River Rapids was designed to be Tiger River Run - the Asian counterpart to the iconic Kilimanjaro Safaris. So the rapids would presumably tame and the focus and draw of the ride would be that of Kilimanjaro Safaris. I presume that much like the poacher storyline of the Safari, the deforestation story of this ride would havw been secondary to wildlife.

The problem is that Tiger River Run was a poorly thought out ride. Rapids rides are not a good ride system for animal encountering; it's a terrible one. The rapids are problematic for the animals themselves, because they're loud and will cause stress for animal inhabitants, and the speed and general way of a rapid ride takes away from animal viewing; such a ride would need to be done with a boat similar to Jungle Cruise. So with that scrapped, you have Kali River Rapids.

Kali River Rapids is barebones as a concept without the animals. It is barebones because it:

1. Is too tame to rely all too much on thrills.
2. Does not have 'scenes' - only one. Scenes make the ride exciting, grandiose scenes are the fun climaxes of the ride. In Kali, there is only one scene so the rest is just wandering along a river; beautiful filler.
3. Is very thin on plot.
4. Without thrills, is far too short.

That said, if they put some money into it, it'd be a really good ride.
The problems with Tiger River Run are no excuse for Kali to be an extremely weak and disappointing ride.

Grizzly River Run doesn't have any animals, show scenes or animatronics either, but it's still an incredibly fun ride.

If the right amount of money had been spent on Kali, it could've been that as well
 

Magic Feather

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Since everyone's talking about Kali, I'll bite;

Kali River Rapids was designed to be Tiger River Run - the Asian counterpart to the iconic Kilimanjaro Safaris. So the rapids would presumably tame and the focus and draw of the ride would be that of Kilimanjaro Safaris. I presume that much like the poacher storyline of the Safari, the deforestation story of this ride would havw been secondary to wildlife.

The problem is that Tiger River Run was a poorly thought out ride. Rapids rides are not a good ride system for animal encountering; it's a terrible one. The rapids are problematic for the animals themselves, because they're loud and will cause stress for animal inhabitants, and the speed and general way of a rapid ride takes away from animal viewing; such a ride would need to be done with a boat similar to Jungle Cruise. So with that scrapped, you have Kali River Rapids.

Kali River Rapids is barebones as a concept without the animals. It is barebones because it:

1. Is too tame to rely all too much on thrills.
2. Does not have 'scenes' - only one. Scenes make the ride exciting, grandiose scenes are the fun climaxes of the ride. In Kali, there is only one scene so the rest is just wandering along a river; beautiful filler.
3. Is very thin on plot.
4. Without thrills, is far too short.

That said, if they put some money into it, it'd be a really good ride.
If I recall, TRR was to use a ride system much more similar to that of Jurassic Park at Universal, which would be much more capable of adjusting speed to be slow and calm or rapid when need be.
 

BlakeW39

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The problems with Tiger River Run are no excuse for Kali to be an extremely weak and disappointing ride.

Grizzly River Run doesn't have any animals, show scenes or animatronics either, but it's still an incredibly fun ride.

If the right amount of money had been spent on Kali, it could've been that as well
Look at my post carefully.

The Tiger River Run doesn't excuse Kali. Kali is bad because it's too tame and/OR because it lacks storytelling.

If I recall, TRR was to use a ride system much more similar to that of Jurassic Park at Universal, which would be much more capable of adjusting speed to be slow and calm or rapid when need be.
Really? Concept art I've seen portray it with the same ride vehicle as Kali, and from my understanding they did cancel it due to zoological reasons - that is the stress it puts upon animals.

A Jurassic Park ride system would be better (though still not a good idea).
 

TOCPE82

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Top of my head mainly the fire and fireball effects and associated sounds. I’ll have to dig to see what else. The lift misting was MIA for a while too.

It’s not something I tend to ride every trip.
Lift misting was there last week, and no fireball or chainsaw like effects. My kid liked it, but it was her first raft ride and she didn't know what she was missing.
 

The Duck

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Since everyone's talking about Kali, I'll bite;

Kali River Rapids was designed to be Tiger River Run - the Asian counterpart to the iconic Kilimanjaro Safaris. So the rapids would presumably tame and the focus and draw of the ride would be that of Kilimanjaro Safaris. I presume that much like the poacher storyline of the Safari, the deforestation story of this ride would havw been secondary to wildlife.

The problem is that Tiger River Run was a poorly thought out ride. Rapids rides are not a good ride system for animal encountering; it's a terrible one. The rapids are problematic for the animals themselves, because they're loud and will cause stress for animal inhabitants, and the speed and general way of a rapid ride takes away from animal viewing; such a ride would need to be done with a boat similar to Jungle Cruise. So with that scrapped, you have Kali River Rapids.

Kali River Rapids is barebones as a concept without the animals. It is barebones because it:

1. Is too tame to rely all too much on thrills.
2. Does not have 'scenes' - only one. Scenes make the ride exciting, grandiose scenes are the fun climaxes of the ride. In Kali, there is only one scene so the rest is just wandering along a river; beautiful filler.
3. Is very thin on plot.
4. Without thrills, is far too short.

That said, if they put some money into it, it'd be a really good ride.
From what I recall, TTR was supposed to start off as a peaceful raft ride past various Asian animal exhibits and after a while, you would “Take a wrong turn” and then the rapids, thrill ride would begin.
If this was the original plan, the animals wouldn’t have been affected by the rapids as the exhibits would have been in a separate part of the ride.
 

BlakeW39

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From what I recall, TTR was supposed to start off as a peaceful raft ride past various Asian animal exhibits and after a while, you would “Take a wrong turn” and then the rapids, thrill ride would begin.
If this was the original plan, the animals wouldn’t have been affected by the rapids as the exhibits would have been in a separate part of the ride.
Well I'd assume that they would separate them, but simply separating chronologically doesn't really prevent animals from constantly being beraded by screams and plunging. That's why the trails are so far off. Maybe they had a solution to this but didn't they cancel the ride specifically for this reason? That's what I remember.
 

Mainahman

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Well I'd assume that they would separate them, but simply separating chronologically doesn't really prevent animals from constantly being beraded by screams and plunging. That's why the trails are so far off. Maybe they had a solution to this but didn't they cancel the ride specifically for this reason? That's what I remember.
Not to mention... large cats kinda like to swim ;)
 

Magic Feather

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Look at my post carefully.

The Tiger River Run doesn't excuse Kali. Kali is bad because it's too tame and/OR because it lacks storytelling.



Really? Concept art I've seen portray it with the same ride vehicle as Kali, and from my understanding they did cancel it due to zoological reasons - that is the stress it puts upon animals.

A Jurassic Park ride system would be better (though still not a good idea).
Just a quick internet search shows these pieces of concept art.A2E28A30-D8F5-484B-8F7B-45AA4DEB3CA4.jpegF7BCB36F-5A57-4EEB-98BB-438194968D96.jpeg While it definitely would have issues, I know there are other “boat safari” rides out there.
For instance, I seem to recall hearing about one at a Mexican nature park called Xcaret.
 

jrogue

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egg

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A good boat ride with animals alongside would be very difficult, perhaps impossible, to do with automated vehicles. They would likely need a CM on board having some sort of control of the boat’s movement as well as communication with other CMs. And today’s Disney tends to spend hundreds of millions to bring down ops costs rather than just spend tens of millions on ops because it looks slightly better on the balance sheet. Just one of many reasons it’ll likely never happen, unfortunately, and one of the reasons they have no intention of adding animals to the park. Animal Kingdom would’ve never been built under the Bobs.
 
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