News New Polynesian Resort DVC villas building to open 2024

[correcaminos]

I've spent years on a DVC specific forum talking to the same people over and over again. Several of them I know better than my coworkers. So there are certainly internet people, but not a reddit drive-by. These are informed consumers who know the rules better than my outside family and friends. The required minimum used to be per resort so they were not all the same thing. I don't remember it being anybody's first contract because most at the time were already owners or trying to buy small resales with a minimum direct add-on. My point was that they haven't always followed the minimum add-on rules for new resorts if you are willing to go through the motions and hold firm on your point numbers.

It would make sense for them to hold tight to the 150 minimum for new owners, as I think it does for all the restrictions they've been systematically adding to DVC. I'm just not as sure as you are that they will hold the line on point minimums now that the blue card perks have been scaled way back.

Speaking for myself, I thought you were referring to new buys. I have never heard that waived before. I can say with add ons sometimes even the guides don't know what the rules are - why I dropped mine. I mean I got the sale in, but he kept giving wrong rules and kept trying to get me to finance. Blech. New guy I just got seems pretty good (my old one retired or was let go - not sure which - last year). But add ons are a different ball game and often have different rules at different times with different buy ins. Cash often gets you whatever you want within reason I find.

 

[Nubs70]

This thing is going to open in the middle of a recession.

 

[pdude81]

This thing is going to open in the middle of a recession.

I'd say it's entirely possible.

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[GoofGoof]

This thing is going to open in the middle of a recession.

BLT opened at the tail end of the Great Recession in 2009. They started selling points right at the peak of the recession.

 

[correcaminos]

BLT opened at the tail end of the Great Recession in 2009. They started selling points right at the peak of the recession.

We had RR open months before the pandemic too. Plus we have no clue what financials will be like in 2-3 years

 

[GoofGoof]

We had RR open months before the pandemic too. Plus we have no clue what financials will be like in 2-3 years

I don’t want to say DVC is recession proof, but it doesn’t seem to be much of a factor. With theme parks and hotels and timeshares that take years to plan and build you can’t really hold off in case a recession breaks out. If it happens it may take a little longer to sell out the new Poly points. Based on history I think that’s about the extent of the impact.

 

[correcaminos]

I don’t want to say DVC is recession proof, but it doesn’t seem to be much of a factor. With theme parks and hotels and timeshares that take years to plan and build you can’t really hold off in case a recession breaks out. If it happens it may take a little longer to sell out the new Poly points. Based on history I think that’s about the extent of the impact.

Agreed. Most they’ll do is delay any expansions they had. But then again they've been selling Aulani how many years? I know 2020 wasn't a recession but for many hours and pays were cut. Hurts bad when you cannot make what you used to. I'm really not convinced covid was as much of an affect on sales as other things.

 

[pdude81]

They just raise prices 6 bucks a year to pay the majority of last year's maintenance fees and all us idiots keep on rolling. It's magic

 

[tl77]

Christmas time you need to book asap if you care where you are anywhere. But nope on WL and Bay Lake in the summer. I travel often June first and we've had Bay Lake a number of times and WL as well (both). Though we're opting for VGF which I managed to snag a standard view 2 bedroom.

I'll state again (I think - if not ignore that and realize I posted the same coming thing elsewhere on this forum lol) I took a shower at the same time as my 14yo last week. We loved having the two showers. That was the only thing that made a studio only stay tolerable for us for the 3 nights. I really would've preferred a 2 bath 1 bed but I don't love BLT and AKL is still missing its charm thanks to lack of international workers. Storage is in different spots. People forget to look under bed and in the chest.

Polynesian rooms are among some of the largest yes. They are also relatively easy to book since there are 360 of them and they are higher points than SSR or OKW. I was one of the DVC members who bought first day PVB went on sale. I do adore the resort. The first wasn't a disappointment really though we prefer 1 or 2 bedrooms. Doing 2 connecting studios makes it livable for longer stays. The second one will be like staying there and using the resort because - gasp - I'll be there. No different than doing a bungalow that is nothing like the original rooms. Sure it might look different but it will just be another building much like VGF has 2 buildings coming up. No big deal to me. Each will be slightly different but likely the same south pacific vibe.

So not all of us share your opinions. They didn't drop the ball the first time to me. I doubt they will a second. I will be lining up to add on about 70 more points to my current PVB bucket - currently almost 40% of my points are there.

I'm sure you'll ignore this again and repeat your own opinions, but Those of us who've been DVC members for 20 years before you joined don't think think the DVC is so great at the Poly

 

[tl77]

We were just at the Poly last week for our second DVC stay there, and they didn't drop the ball at all, and if the concept art is fairly accurate, they won't be dropping it again.

I have stayed at Marriotts all over the country and driven by literally hundreds of Holiday Inns, and not one of them looked like the concept art for the new Poly tower. You guys need to get a new game. The constant comparisons that are so off are just getting tiring.

I stayed at the Poly many times in the 70's and 80's, and nothing about that tower is like staying at the current Poly resort, but the Grand Floridian DVC building is identical to the original Hotel, same with Bolder Ridge at The Wilderness Lodge, and Bay Lake Tower is "similar" to the Contemporary's A-frame

 

[LuvtheGoof]

I stayed at the Poly many times in the 70's and 80's, and nothing about that tower is like staying at the current Poly resort, but the Grand Floridian DVC building is identical to the original Hotel, same with Bolder Ridge at The Wilderness Lodge, and Bay Lake Tower is "similar" to the Contemporary's A-frame

So you're going to form an opinion before they even break ground on it. Seems like normal around here.

Oh, and while I love the VGF DVC rooms, the building is missing a lot of the outside details of the original buildings. Same, but not the same, and certainly not identical.

I agree with BLT, as they even lined up the floors when you look at it from the lagoon.

Haven't stayed at Wilderness Lodge at all as of yet, in either DVC, so I won't have any kind of opinion about it until I actually stay there.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

I'm sure you'll ignore this again and repeat your own opinions, but Those of us who've been DVC members for 20 years before you joined don't think think the DVC is so great at the Poly

So you must own at OKW then. So please tell us what is so wrong with the DVC rooms and longhouses at the Poly.

 

[Nubs70]

BLT opened at the tail end of the Great Recession in 2009. They started selling points right at the peak of the recession.

Which the US Fed artificially lowered the Prime Rate in an effort to "stimulate " the economy in a no inflation environment.

Now Prime Rate is increasing in an inflationary environment. WDW is looking to bring this online in an economic environment more like the late 70's than the late 00's

 

[correcaminos]

I'm sure you'll ignore this again and repeat your own opinions, but Those of us who've been DVC members for 20 years before you joined don't think think the DVC is so great at the Poly

How long do you think I've been a DVC member? DVC wasn't around 20 years before I joined and my original home is OKW. So next time try not to be so condescending. Thanks.

 

[correcaminos]

So you must own at OKW then. So please tell us what is so wrong with the DVC rooms and longhouses at the Poly.

Well I own at OKW and PVB. I must be a weirdo or something. Still looking forward to 1 and 2 bedrooms at Polynesian. I actually enjoyed my bungalow nights too. I also stayed many nights at Polynesian in the 80s and kinda love the resort. Honeymooned in 2000 there. Must be something wrong with me...

Eta I had owned quite a number of years at OKW only before I added on. Only so far PVB and CCV have caused me to add on.

I stayed at the Poly many times in the 70's and 80's, and nothing about that tower is like staying at the current Poly resort, but the Grand Floridian DVC building is identical to the original Hotel, same with Bolder Ridge at The Wilderness Lodge, and Bay Lake Tower is "similar" to the Contemporary's A-frame

Disagree. VGF is similar but different. BRV has different exteriors but still similar as well. The only similarity with BLT is a buncha concrete. I've stayed at all DVC resorts more than once save RR. I've been going to Disney very regularly for 40 years (I'm 45 so sorry I didn't go before then). I'm allowed opinions as you are and we are allowed to disagree. Putting people down and pretending your stays are valid when others are not isn't cool. So PVB isn't for you. Big deal. Move on. Let me enjoy it.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

Well I own at OKW and PVB. I must be a weirdo or something. Still looking forward to 1 and 2 bedrooms at Polynesian. I actually enjoyed my bungalow nights too. I also stayed many nights at Polynesian in the 80s and kinda love the resort. Honeymooned in 2000 there. Must be something wrong with me...

Eta I had owned quite a number of years at OKW only before I added on. Only so far PVB and CCV have caused me to add on.

Oh, you and I are quite alike in that we both like the Poly DVC. We are also looking forward to the 1 and 2 bedrooms at Poly. I was waiting for @tl77 to tell us what is wrong with it, and why we are so wrong about the Poly.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

How long do you think I've been a DVC member? DVC wasn't around 20 years before I joined and my original home is OKW. So next time try not to be so condescending. Thanks.

It wasn't around 20 years before we joined either.

 

[correcaminos]

It wasn't around 20 years before we joined either.

I think it was around our honeymoon when I first started looking into it, but it took a couple years to buy a house and save up. Obviously I'm not old enough to have owned from the 90s as I was still in HS lol but still not a newb and far surpassed the usual average length of ownership.

Oh, you and I are quite alike in that we both like the Poly DVC. We are also looking forward to the 1 and 2 bedrooms at Poly. I was waiting for @tl77 to tell us what is wrong with it, and why we are so wrong about the Poly.

We just had a fantastic stay there for break just my son and I. I even squeezed a night in this past fall and liked it for the night too. I moved on to SSR after that. Which is a property I didn't step foot in for over 15 years. I personally disliked it until the referbs. Not going to say people were wrong for liking it when I hated it though. Because we all vary with our likes. Which is all this should be about.

 

[nickys]

THV at Saratoga were a conversion and I assume a significant one, but far too remote to be it's own resort and you need substantial transportation to get to a real pool or food.
- Kidani was announced with the AKV project and was just part two. They have a full pool area, a restaurant, sundries shop, and easy access to Jambo, so this could have been it's own resort. However, it was always planned as part of one condo association.
- CCV was a major gut that removed a whole tower of rooms from WL for DVC. It got it's own pool and splash pad rework, all room types, and access to all existing amenities you'd need in a deluxe resort, so that checks all the necessary boxes. Given these factors and the new addition of cabins, I would never expect them to make this part of the existing system. Existing owners might revolt over the idea of the cabin points being able to plug up their rooms. Also given the continued problem with OKW contract dates that was front and center when AKV went on sale, there is no chance they'd do another 2042 date here.
- VGF is doing a fast refurbishment of existing buildings with no new restaurant or major pool refurbishment. As we know there are only studios and they are not even doing any major plumbing work in the buildings for a kitchenette sink. It's also just one building that was changed. So to me this thing couldn't possibly pull it's own weight as a new association or "resort". They made clear when announcing the project that it would be part of the existing VGF offerings also, where that information is left vague at best with the Polynesian DVC expansion.

I’m not sure I follow your line of thinking.

THV was too remote to be a separate resort? That seems to be a non-sequitur. If a resort is remote from another, surely they would be separate?

Yet Kidani had “easy access to Jambo” but could have been a separate resort?

CCV didn’t get a pool of its own. Despite being a separate resort it shares a pool with BRV, albeit the pool was completely redone.

 

[nickys]

Yeah I've definitely seen those "old man calls his guide from the Riviera pool deck to add on 300 points on a whim" types.

Did you really just label anyone who’s turned 60 old???

You young whipper snapper.