News New Polynesian Resort DVC villas building to open 2024

[CaptainAmerica]

It is also minimum required for resale to get blue card status.

Resale doesn't get blue card status regardless of contract size.

 

[correcaminos]

I don't know, I can't imagine Disneyland Hotel getting a higher points chart than Grand Cal. I know Disney can do that, I just don't think they will. It would be the first time in DVC history where the points charts would be completely detached from cash prices at the corresponding hotels.

With the exception of Old Key West, points chart inflation is a myth.

Currently VGC is higher than VGF in terms of points. In case I typo'd I am saying new tower at DLH area will be less points than current villas at GC. Which would put it in line likely closer to Grand Floridian lake views. I took 6 nights in summer and got 162 for Grand Californian and 143 for Grand Floridian lake view. So less than VGC but not by a whole lot.

The DVC charts for rooms always had DLH less than GCH

 

[correcaminos]

Resale doesn't get blue card status regardless of contract size.

Never said they did. If you are resale you are required to get a combined 150 direct to get blue card status. Does not have to be all one resort.

 

[pdude81]

The 150 point buy in is the required minimum for a new member to get a blue card, and has to be bought all at once on a single contact. Not sure where you would have heard that the minimum buy in was waived as there is absolutely no incentive for DVC to ever do that. They couldn't care less if you buy in or not, so no reason to budge.

I've been around a few minutes, so I know in the past they have not always stuck to their guns. Whether they are currently is my question

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Currently VGC is higher than VGF in terms of points. In case I typo'd I am saying new tower at DLH area will be less points than current villas at GC. Which would put it in line likely closer to Grand Floridian lake views. I took 6 nights in summer and got 162 for Grand Californian and 143 for Grand Floridian lake view. So less than VGC but not by a whole lot.

Summer is an anomaly. Most of the year, GF Lake is higher than GC.

Weekly rates, because I didn't feel like parsing weekdays and weekends:

Grand Cal is higher 91 nights of the year

Grand Flo Lake is higher 274 nights of the year.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

I've been around a few minutes, so I know in the past they have not always stuck to their guns. Whether they are currently is my question

I've never heard of them waiving the minimum buy in, even in the past. Are you listening to internet people state this, or do you personally know someone that was able to buy less than the required minimum on their very first purchase?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I've never heard of them waiving the minimum buy in, even in the past. Are you listening to internet people state this, or do you personally know someone that was able to buy less than the required minimum on their very first purchase?

I think it was just a timeline issue when the minimum buy-in started ramping up. There was definitely a period of time right after the minimum buy-in for benefits became 150 where you could buy a not-benefits-eligible smaller contract.

I distinctly remember this because different resorts had different minimums. Some required 25, some required 50, some required 100.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

I distinctly remember this because different resorts had different minimums. Some required 25, some required 50, some required 100.

That's only for existing members. Right now there are different minimum buy ins for different resorts, but again, only for existing members. Both RR and CCV require 50 point minimums even for existing members. The rest only require 25 to add on.

 

[LuvtheGoof]

I think it was just a timeline issue when the minimum buy-in started ramping up. There was definitely a period of time right after the minimum buy-in for benefits became 150 where you could buy a not-benefits-eligible smaller contract.

The only way this could have happened is if someone signed the contact before the new minimum went into affect. It would take time for closing and all, but it would still be considered as buying in under the old rules.

ETA: And it is possible that a guide might have been willing to back date a contact for someone as well.

 

[correcaminos]

Summer is an anomaly. Most of the year, GF Lake is higher than GC.

Weekly rates, because I didn't feel like parsing weekdays and weekends:

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Grand Cal is higher 91 nights of the year

Grand Flo Lake is higher 274 nights of the year.

So I was wrong for randomly clicking a week that showed up on the calendar.

You get what my point is though right? It will fall below VGC but not a ton either. I can be wrong. I have no issues saying that or having to prove myself. But that is my educated guess. For the summer my guess is close to LV VGF.

 

[correcaminos]

That's only for existing members. Right now there are different minimum buy ins for different resorts, but again, only for existing members. Both RR and CCV require 50 point minimums even for existing members. The rest only require 25 to add on.

And financing has upped it to 50 for some resorts too.

I think it was just a timeline issue when the minimum buy-in started ramping up. There was definitely a period of time right after the minimum buy-in for benefits became 150 where you could buy a not-benefits-eligible smaller contract.

I distinctly remember this because different resorts had different minimums. Some required 25, some required 50, some required 100.

They still have different minimums for some. I think you might be confusing the time when 25 was minimum direct and then ramping up. They did that to coincide with minimum buy ins for new. Resale add ons could always do resort minimum of around 25-50 resort and financing depending. New buys could not once they began to up the blue card minimum. Those matched. I did some quick googling to verify. Again can have missed and be wrong but all articles I saw pointed to that

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You get what my point is though right? It will fall below VGC but not a ton either.

Yes, I do agree with that point.

I thought you were trying to say it would be higher than VGC because "points charts only go up," which is an argument a lot of people make.

When I first read about the project, I wouldn't have been shocked to see "premium" views go for a tiny bit higher than VGC with standard views coming in quite a bit less, similar to the way that AKV Savanna and Standard view rooms straddle BRV/CCV. But I don't think any of the DLT views are going to be anything worth paying extra for.

 

[correcaminos]

Yes, I do agree with that point.

I thought you were trying to say it would be higher than VGC because "points charts only go up," which is an argument a lot of people make.

When I first read about the project, I wouldn't have been shocked to see "premium" views go for a tiny bit higher than VGC with standard views coming in quite a bit less, similar to the way that AKV Savanna and Standard view rooms straddle BRV/CCV. But I don't think any of the DLT views are going to be anything worth paying extra for.

Nah not at all. Just picked a lousy couple of weeks as the calendar I found defaulted to summer. And yes premium views go for more but not sure DLH area will have those?

I mean I can be wrong but pretty sure it will be less than VGC based on historical point costs for DLH and GCH. My first stay on DVC was actually me staying at GCH for 3 nights and the points were more for GCH but worth it for access. My resale contract had Disney points that couldn't be used for DVC and only Disney collection so got it for a steal and worked since I planned a DLR trip anyway. Best deal ever. DLH doesn't have as easy access either so they can't premium that IMO.

 

[aaronml]

Apparently another casualty of this is the removal of both of the Polynesian wedding venues. Luau Pointe and Luau Beach are no longer listed on the Disney Weddings site. It’s a shame since they were two of the best locations (IMO)……

 

[wdwmagic]

Apparently another casualty of this is the removal of both of the Polynesian wedding venues. Luau Pointe and Luau Beach are no longer listed on the Disney Weddings site. It’s a shame since they were two of the best locations (IMO)……

I'm guessing there will be something once all this is rebuilt, but for now its going to be a construction site.

 

[UNCgolf]

I'm guessing there will be something once all this is rebuilt, but for now its going to be a construction site.

Will there be room for anything?

Based on the concept art it looks like that whole area will be right in front of the new building. Not that you couldn't still get married there, but you'd probably have resort guests sitting outside within a few hundred feet of your wedding. They might just try to push everyone to the wedding pavilion at the Grand Floridian.

 

[correcaminos]

Will there be room for anything?

Based on the concept art it looks like that whole area will be right in front of the new building. Not that you couldn't still get married there, but you'd probably have resort guests sitting outside within a few hundred feet of your wedding. They might just try to push everyone to the wedding pavilion at the Grand Floridian.

There are 45 of locations for weddings at Disney. I'm more upset that there are none at Sunset Point still. AFAIK it never came back and not listed on the site. Didn't really like luau cove anyway https://www.disneyweddings.com/florida/venues/

(Considered a vow renewal at one point pre-pandemic)

 

[UNCgolf]

There are 45 of locations for weddings at Disney. I'm more upset that there are none at Sunset Point still. AFAIK it never came back and not listed on the site. Didn't really like luau cove anyway https://www.disneyweddings.com/florida/venues/

(Considered a vow renewal at one point pre-pandemic)

Oh I know there are other wedding locations -- I just meant I could see them pushing everything from those former Polynesian locations to the pavilion.

 

[correcaminos]

Oh I know there are other wedding locations -- I just meant I could see them pushing everything from those former Polynesian locations to the pavilion.

I figured they would do GF first... but that was my thought and I totally could be wrong. Those were the more like for like locations was all.

 

[pdude81]

I've never heard of them waiving the minimum buy in, even in the past. Are you listening to internet people state this, or do you personally know someone that was able to buy less than the required minimum on their very first purchase?

I've spent years on a DVC specific forum talking to the same people over and over again. Several of them I know better than my coworkers. So there are certainly internet people, but not a reddit drive-by. These are informed consumers who know the rules better than my outside family and friends. The required minimum used to be per resort so they were not all the same thing. I don't remember it being anybody's first contract because most at the time were already owners or trying to buy small resales with a minimum direct add-on. My point was that they haven't always followed the minimum add-on rules for new resorts if you are willing to go through the motions and hold firm on your point numbers.

It would make sense for them to hold tight to the 150 minimum for new owners, as I think it does for all the restrictions they've been systematically adding to DVC. I'm just not as sure as you are that they will hold the line on point minimums now that the blue card perks have been scaled way back.