Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I cannot be the only one who is now seeing this as a legit idea...in the form of like a Horizons attraction? Also, I laughed way too hard.
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EPCOT New Play Pavilion to replace Epcot's Wonders of Life
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EPCOT is all about the progress of human culture, civilization, architecture, and ladders.
TwilightZone
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That's...absolutely fair lol. But EPCOT has had better "play" areas in the past, or more appealing ones in my view. Classic Imageworks, Communicore, and Innoventions comes to mind. They all had something that fit every age group and (surprise, surprise) had decent educational value.
Play just misses the mark at both.
DreamfinderGuy
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Wonders was supposed to be 2021. Predicting it’s getting a two year delay is pretty bold, but reasonable.
ToTBellHop
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It’s not open.
Animaniac93-98
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Because they wanted the bar on legs as both an added revenue stream and an architectural statement to prove (to them more than us) that they really did something for the park.
Except without that building the whole logic behind the master plan falls apart.
There was logic to begin with?
Disstevefan1
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Moana's ENDLESS Journey of Construction....
Sometimes there are things targeted to children and adults are not welcome (Honey I Shrunk the Kids Playground, any splash pad), and things that are only for adults (anything with a high height requirement).
Sure, an all-family thing is preferable, but, I don't remember adults asking where is their oversized-prop-playground in the past.
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UNCgolf
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Yeah I know, but even if they'd actually built the festival building it seems like there would have been a lot of underutilized (if not unutilized) space.
ToTBellHop
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Can you imagine an after hours, adults-only, alcohol-included party in the HISTK playground?
yensidtlaw1969
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The difference, of course, is that this is replacing an entire, large EPCOT Pavilion - one that used to offer entertainment for all age groups, and now no longer will.
James Alucobond
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CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
It’s not like Play is displacing a thriving pavilion. It’s displacing a corpse.
ToTBellHop
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Apparently some adults like characters. No one, on the other hand, enjoyed Epcot sex ed. They struggle enough with pads being mentioned in Turning Red…
This is kind of like complaining that Mermaid “replaced” 20k Leagues Under the Sea. It really didn’t even if it kept a bit of the structure.
UNCgolf
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I don't think that's really the point.
It's more that they have a location with existing attraction space that they are using for something they could have easily put in another existing structure, and they're not even using the attraction space. It just doesn't make much sense from a master planning standpoint -- it's an inefficient use of space.
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yensidtlaw1969
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The Wonders of Life facility is well capable of returning to meaningful function and hosting legitimate attractions, and has been. That was much less true for 20,000 Leagues - the Nemo Submarine Voyage at Disneyland somewhat proves that they could have revived the WDW Submarine Lagoon, but I fully recognize that have taken serious, serious work.
Point being that the comparison really isn't apples to apples. 20,000 Leagues was far less a traditional building than Wonders is. I enjoy characters plenty, but not so much that they prove a suitable use of a functioning building that once housed a theater show and simulator attraction, and could do so again without being fully gutted.
Not insisting that they revive Wonders as it was, just that better things could be done with what they have to work with. Perhaps instead of using the world "replace" better wording would have been for me to say that Play is "making use of a building that can, has, could, and should be used for much more".
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ToTBellHop
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I think that’s fair, but it is kind of replacing Innoventions space. Meanwhile, Innoventions is getting replaced with…some waterfalls and…?
James Alucobond
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Does what they're doing actually impact the old theater and simulator areas? I don't think converting the dome itself into PLAY! is necessarily inefficient. The continued disuse of the attached spaces seems to be the actual problem, but it's a separate issue, I think.
Naplesgolfer
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I totally agree. The whole spine plan and so many other choices seem so opposite of what a seasoned theme park executive would logically choose. They seem to have no one who has any connection to what the park experience should be like. Executives with decision making authority need to quarterly go through the park's and experience them as their customers do. I don't think the C suite people realize how under built and dysfunctional some of their parks are.