CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
It’s not like Play is displacing a thriving pavilion. It’s displacing a corpse.
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News New Play Pavilion to replace Epcot's Wonders of Life
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ToTBellHop
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Apparently some adults like characters. No one, on the other hand, enjoyed Epcot sex ed. They struggle enough with pads being mentioned in Turning Red…
This is kind of like complaining that Mermaid “replaced” 20k Leagues Under the Sea. It really didn’t even if it kept a bit of the structure.
UNCgolf
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I don't think that's really the point.
It's more that they have a location with existing attraction space that they are using for something they could have easily put in another existing structure, and they're not even using the attraction space. It just doesn't make much sense from a master planning standpoint -- it's an inefficient use of space.
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yensidtlaw1969
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The Wonders of Life facility is well capable of returning to meaningful function and hosting legitimate attractions, and has been. That was much less true for 20,000 Leagues - the Nemo Submarine Voyage at Disneyland somewhat proves that they could have revived the WDW Submarine Lagoon, but I fully recognize that have taken serious, serious work.
Point being that the comparison really isn't apples to apples. 20,000 Leagues was far less a traditional building than Wonders is. I enjoy characters plenty, but not so much that they prove a suitable use of a functioning building that once housed a theater show and simulator attraction, and could do so again without being fully gutted.
Not insisting that they revive Wonders as it was, just that better things could be done with what they have to work with. Perhaps instead of using the world "replace" better wording would have been for me to say that Play is "making use of a building that can, has, could, and should be used for much more".
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ToTBellHop
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I think that’s fair, but it is kind of replacing Innoventions space. Meanwhile, Innoventions is getting replaced with…some waterfalls and…?
James Alucobond
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Does what they're doing actually impact the old theater and simulator areas? I don't think converting the dome itself into PLAY! is necessarily inefficient. The continued disuse of the attached spaces seems to be the actual problem, but it's a separate issue, I think.
Naplesgolfer
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I totally agree. The whole spine plan and so many other choices seem so opposite of what a seasoned theme park executive would logically choose. They seem to have no one who has any connection to what the park experience should be like. Executives with decision making authority need to quarterly go through the park's and experience them as their customers do. I don't think the C suite people realize how under built and dysfunctional some of their parks are.
UNCgolf
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I meant that combined with demolishing Communicore/Innoventions and replacing it with basically nothing (at least as far as we know). What we know about the Play Pavilion could have easily gone in that space, leaving the former WoL pavilion and its attraction space available for something else. All of that together seems very inefficient to me -- it appears like there will be much less usable guest space than there would have otherwise been.
CastAStone
5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
I am happy to make that evaluation after we *actually* know what’s inside of it.
James Alucobond
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I guess my thought is that, in my mind, there was never really anything of particular interest housed in the domed vestibule of Wonders anyway, so shifting something there isn’t any more or less efficient than it ever was. But I certainly agree that maintaining the other space and activating everything optimally would be ideal.
UNCgolf
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It was definitely my least favorite pavilion. I barely remember it -- the only thing that comes to mind is the exercise bikes with video that was synced to your pedaling speed. I think either Disneyland or the Magic Kingdom was one of the options but there were others.
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We already know: $15/hour hugs!
Patcheslee
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Yes: offer alcohol before guests get too far into the park, then guests will be less aware of the rest.
A festival-themed land area, duh!
FigmentFan82
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ToTBellHop
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If only the centerpiece of a World Celebration themed area were a Fountain of Nations that celebrated the world…
FigmentFan82
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because they only seem to be thinking SMMOL
SirLink
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TBF it is located in "World Discovery" area of epcot - Discover a World of bad IP seems a bit on the nose.
Animaniac93-98
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To me, this is more like when 20K was finally demolished and a corner of the site became Pooh's Playful Spot.
After years of sitting idle, an attraction with appeal to a wide audience is allocating some of its available space to an experience with a more limited target demographic.