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Rumor New nighttime show at Epcot

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
Aren't old Animatronics still running on the spinning-drum style control systems? Not that there's anything wrong with it, but it's the oldest equivalent of Punch cards I'd imagine still in use today.
To be honest, the only thing left that’s close to "legacy" is the JC, and I’d be surprised if even that didn’t have its show systems updated.
 

Rich Brownn

Well-Known Member
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Aren't old Animatronics still running on the spinning-drum style control systems? Not that there's anything wrong with it, but it's the oldest equivalent of Punch cards I'd imagine still in use today.
I think most have been upgraded by now. The only one I can think of that might use that would be Its A Small World
 

Ninja Mom

Active Member
There are a lot of legacy systems within P&R that just can't be upgraded without requiring software or utilities to be completely re-written. Rest assured measures are taken to keep them secure... like not connecting them to the network.

There were actually a few scares a while back when Microsoft started "upgrading" systems forcibly as though they were system patches.
I know I pull on a Depends any time anyone rolls out a software update on anything. There is a lot of cursing for the first few days as I look for stuff that has disappeared because someone wants to sell it to me again. Microsoft and Samsung I'm looking at YOU!

I can believe Disney has carbon fiber punch cards for the Tiki Room in their archives somewhere. That's an 80's tech version of an upgrade.
~NM
 

hpyhnt 1000

Well-Known Member
A particularly good angle of the lagoon and laser effects from the 4th of July tag last night. Safe to say the show designers have been getting their money's worth out of those new lasers that were added a few years ago.


It's also a great example of just how much more could be done for a nighttime show on the lagoon WITHOUT defaulting to projections and IP everywhere. The next evening show at Epcot (interim or permanent) should takes its cue from RoE and RoL and be more than just another Disney clip show. Improve the infrastructure that is already there - new fountain jets, updated Syncrolights, new pavilion rim lighting with full spectrum LED floods, new fire effects while keeping the lagoon torches - and wrap it in a new flowing soundtrack. Certainly there is room for projection mapping to enhance the show (older versions of IllumiNations actually did to a degree) but in moderation.

Let MK have the projection clip show, and let DHS have the "hot new IPs" one. Keep Epcot's show unique, original, and playing to its strengths: lasers, orchestral score, grand fountains, high and low level pyro - all done in an immersive theater-in-the-round setting.
 

jrhwdw

Well-Known Member
A particularly good angle of the lagoon and laser effects from the 4th of July tag last night. Safe to say the show designers have been getting their money's worth out of those new lasers that were added a few years ago.


It's also a great example of just how much more could be done for a nighttime show on the lagoon WITHOUT defaulting to projections and IP everywhere. The next evening show at Epcot (interim or permanent) should takes its cue from RoE and RoL and be more than just another Disney clip show. Improve the infrastructure that is already there - new fountain jets, updated Syncrolights, new pavilion rim lighting with full spectrum LED floods, new fire effects while keeping the lagoon torches - and wrap it in a new flowing soundtrack. Certainly there is room for projection mapping to enhance the show (older versions of IllumiNations actually did to a degree) but in moderation.

Let MK have the projection clip show, and let DHS have the "hot new IPs" one. Keep Epcot's show unique, original, and playing to its strengths: lasers, orchestral score, grand fountains, high and low level pyro - all done in an immersive theater-in-the-round setting.
ROE was ready for July 4th, even after the storms!

As for the interim show, Anything less than last night should be unacceptable. And that's before the tag! They can and should do it right!
 

DoubleJ21

Well-Known Member
That seems to be the thinking.
Is the purpose of the interim show to take the existing barges out of service to refurbish them for the new show? I hope not, but that would seem like a logical explanation.

Btw Martin, do you know how many fountains are used in today's Illuminations? Still no chance the permanent show gets a WOC setup?
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
Is the purpose of the interim show to take the existing barges out of service to refurbish them for the new show? I hope not, but that would seem like a logical explanation.

Btw Martin, do you know how many fountains are used in today's Illuminations? Still no chance the permanent show gets a WOC setup?
I doubt it.

Anyway, Uni now has it :)

BTW an interim show isn’t confirmed yet but is looking likely.
 

Marc Davis Fan

Well-Known Member
I doubt it.

Anyway, Uni now has it :)

BTW an interim show isn’t confirmed yet but is looking likely.
Am I correct in understanding that, if there were to be an interim show, it would begin in early 2019? And the real new show would then debut in Summer 2019?
 

mnelson3

Well-Known Member
It doesn’t need one.

It would be difficult in that form in the current parks

Hyperion Wharf / DS v1 was slated to get one.
Maybe the new Illuminations will have a similar WoC effect but on barges instead of a permanent platform?
 
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