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Rumor New nighttime show at Epcot

The Empress Lilly

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Just to clarify, a goodbye trip for me would be for the final show. I wouldn't do it for just any ride or show, but would consider it for my absolute favorites. If I know it's the last time I'm seeing something I experience it differently, but I guess that's a personal thing. In rare cases Disney also do something special for the final performance. The last MSEP at DLP, for instance, was the longest I'd ever seen. They pulled out everything they had and you could tell that the performers were also "living" it differently. The atmosphere during a final ride or performance is something special.
I will take a special trip to see Illuminations one last time.

Although I might skip the final performance. I might prefer my last time to be more intimate, less a communal event and more a personal one.

I will be devastated and heartbroken though, so that would be easier to hide in crowds of others aware of the occasion. I'll just have to find a quiet spot I guess.
 

Spash007

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How short of an interim show are we looking at? A Holiday version, with the replacement in January, or something longer?
 

dreamfinder

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Really if they would stop performing stuff for two decades this wouldn't be an issue
That's just it. If entertainment (or anything really) gets swapped out and regularly updated there is much less attachment. A band that makes one or two albums over a year or two doesn't do a greatest hits album or farewell tour. But WDW/Disney don't help themselves in this department much. They love to play up sentiment and attachment, from shirts and pins of attractions that are gone/leaving to pushing the "Limited Time Encore Enagement of the MSEP" at DLR. When you build your brand around Dreams and Magic and Memories (is that a DCL name as well?) it's almost expected for anything that is popular to give advance notice of closure.
 

HauntedPirate

Premium Member
That's just it. If entertainment (or anything really) gets swapped out and regularly updated there is much less attachment. A band that makes one or two albums over a year or two doesn't do a greatest hits album or farewell tour. But WDW/Disney don't help themselves in this department much. They love to play up sentiment and attachment, from shirts and pins of attractions that are gone/leaving to pushing the "Limited Time Encore Enagement of the MSEP" at DLR. When you build your brand around Dreams and Magic and Memories (is that a DCL name as well?) it's almost expected for anything that is popular to give advance notice of closure.
It's also difficult when they knocked it out of the park with RoE. How do they follow up on something like that and make it even better? Like some dead guy once said - "You can't top pigs with pigs". As such, sadly, I'm expecting a let-down with whatever replaces RoE. And projections. And IP. Because those both are staples for TDO (and TWDC as a whole) now (regardless of whether or not they are appropriately used, in the case of projections).
 

mikejs78

Premium Member
There's a significant number of people who have issues with RoE. It's not bad, but there are several elements that aren't that great. So, there are those who welcome an update... if it fixes those things and doesn't introduce new problems.
I'm fine with the idea of a new show, I agree with a lot of the problems that others have identified regarding RoE (even though I love the show). However, the one thing I think RoE got exactly right was tone. The epic scope of RoE telling the story of human history fit perfectly with the idea of Epcot. Some have said the new show would be lighter in tone, and will probably include IP. That to me is a loss for the park. If they created a new show of similar scope and tone to RoE, with new tech (and I'd even be OK with careful use of IP), I'd be happy. But sadly I don't think this is the direction they are going.
 

trainplane3

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I'm fine with the idea of a new show, I agree with a lot of the problems that others have identified regarding RoE (even though I love the show). However, the one thing I think RoE got exactly right was tone. The epic scope of RoE telling the story of human history fit perfectly with the idea of Epcot. Some have said the new show would be lighter in tone, and will probably include IP. That to me is a loss for the park. If they created a new show of similar scope and tone to RoE, with new tech (and I'd even be OK with careful use of IP), I'd be happy. But sadly I don't think this is the direction they are going.
Agreed. If there's anything to fix with RoE, it's the middle portion. If you aren't up against the lagoon, you'll miss out on the globe doing its thing and the fountains. If there could be stuff closer or bigger, that'd probably fix a lot of the issues people have with it.

There was a very nice British couple next to me last year, super tall guy and short girl. When it got to the middle section, the girlfriend asked "what's going on?" to which the guy answered, "you aren't missing much, just some water and a video". Kinda sums it up.
Yes. Last I heard (belive me if you want) was the new show is now 2020.
Without getting into specifics, will this "temporary" show bring some new tech with it? Something more then "just" fireworks and lasers?
 

rle4lunch

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RoE went from oohh ahhh inspiring (25 years ago) , to ehh ohh meh (current), this is played...
Agreed. If there's anything to fix with RoE, it's the middle portion. If you aren't up against the lagoon, you'll miss out on the globe doing its thing and the fountains. If there could be stuff closer or bigger, that'd probably fix a lot of the issues people have with it.

There was a very nice British couple next to me last year, super tall guy and short girl. When it got to the middle section, the girlfriend asked "what's going on?" to which the guy answered, "you aren't missing much, just some water and a video". Kinda sums it up.

Without getting into specifics, will this "temporary" show bring some new tech with it? Something more then "just" fireworks and lasers?
Yup... This, x1000.

I really wish that RoL would've had the payoff it promised in the early talk about it. When we saw it I kept waiting for the 'WOW' to happen, never did. It was quite the letdown, considering new nighttime shows usually really impressive me the first few viewings. I didn't get that at all with RoL, and I hadn't gotten that from ROE in 30 years.
 
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