deeevo
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Should of got a Car Fax. A lot of flood damaged monorail's in the Florida used car lots.
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Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?
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s8film40
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It looks like one large loop to me.
There’s a spur from the TTC, a spur to the Contemp, and a direct line to the barn.
s8film40
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Maybe I'm seeing it differently. It looks like there's two switches off of the express line that combined create a complete loop. I thought the line to the barn was was World Dr.
Edit: Here's a crude drawing of what it looks like it's showing to me. I see a loop at the bottom near World Showcase but no loop at the north. This to me indicates the intention is to leave both of those switches open to the new additional loop forming one large route like this: MK>>PO>TTC>WS>CO>MK. I think this would also allow for switching to still use the original express loop, but I don't see how the WS loop would work without going through the whole large loop.
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Rodan75
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Earlier folks were saying that the ATC(?) system was super rough at WDW, but it has improved dramatically since last year. You can definitely tell it has been tuned, now it is a lot smoother than MCO’s brand new Airport monorail (APM?)
But they are having other issues. They are frequently deadheading individual cars, not sure if that is a new sensitivity to the door issue or what.
But they are having other issues. They are frequently deadheading individual cars, not sure if that is a new sensitivity to the door issue or what.
Monorail_Red_77
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I’m not sure if this is related or not. On Monday I saw a maintenance CM working on one of the center cars of Monorail Silver while it was transporting guests. The car he was in was empty. He was also using the emergency phone. I assume to notify the pilot he needed out of the car. Was neat to see. As he left he had a small box of parts. Maybe sensors?
Rodan75
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I haven’t seen anyone working in the cars. But you are probably on to something.
DisneyGentlemanV2.0
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I think you misunderstand the process by which oxidation occurs. The oxygen in the H2O molecule has no direct role in the oxidation of iron - that oxygen remains bound to the hydrogen. Oxygen dissolved in the water combines with the iron to form rust. So if iron sits in deoxygentated water (that is, water with no dissolved oxygen), it generally cannot rust. However there are several other reecations involving sulphur and other elements which can cause corrosion in their presence in water.
In the case of the monorail frame, there was likely both water and oxygen present.
Goofyernmost
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Thanks for the scientific explanation. I have no reason to doubt what you are saying. However, I was amiss in not explaining why I suggested that they either drill drainage holes in the frames or find the leak and seal it up. I apologize for not being clear enough. If water is getting into the interior of the frame then oxygen will have an even easier time doing so. With your definition it will rust, but, not below the water line as much as above it. An object like a steel tubular frame will have varying degrees of moisture in them so water lines will fluctuate. A steel tube is not necessarily a sealed tube so the water will eventually evaporate and cause the metal to be subject to oxidation.
Tim Lohr
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It'd be a lot more efficient to have 1 line... 2 separate lines means 2 trains, and 2 waits times, and twice loading/unloading time of each train. You'd still need the same amount of trains, and the same amount of power, but the "Mickey Head Solar Field" outside Epcot seems to be lined in to the monorail on the permit, and they just announced an even lager solar field to be built on the west side of the property. If they are going to expand their mass transit systems that would be a low cost way to help power Monorails and Skyliners
Rodan75
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It was bad last week. I'm assuming they are taking monorail cars out of service the second a sensor trips or fails until it can be manually checked. Frequently we would see a monorail with all cars open in the morning and by the afternoon 1 or more cars were closed.
They even emptied a full monorail car because one of the two doors didn't close on the first try at the Contemporary Saturday night. All of the Monorail CMs seemed to be on edge all week.
I absolutely dismissed all of the discussion around Monorail Red and assumed there was no real issue here, but after the last week, there is something really wrong with the door controls on these Monorails...and it seems like none of them are immune. (I wonder if the door sensors didn't work for a long period of time and after the Monorail Red incident they are trying to get them to work...)
But at least the stops were smooth(er)...doesn't feel jerky anymore.
Rodan75
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I think you are right, we saw a tech inside a car working on something above the door as well later in the week.
s8film40
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That's really just Disney's typical reaction when things like this happen. They'll be extra cautious with any door issues and check and recheck everything. Meanwhile whatever the next problem is that will come up is currently being overlooked by all the maintenance people messing with doors.
This is how they've operated for many years. One time several years ago they had a door fall off, came off the bracket that holds it. They took each train back to the shop and checked it and for weeks would routinely check each door. Anytime anything was reported with a door they were extra cautious and wouldn't load the car until it was checked out. One time they had a wheel well cover come loose and hit the wall in the Contemporary. Again for months after that they were super cautious with that anytime anything was reported and spent tons of time checking the covers on each train. Another big one was the time the load tire exploded on Monorail Blue and blew the pilots seat out of the back cab. They spent months and months randomly checking tires for air pressure. I could go on and list a lot more but you get the idea. Eventually the next incident will come along and they'll forget about the doors.
Figment2005
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Most of these things are freak incidents. Sometime they aren't, but the majority are. 9 times out of 10 there is no danger, just them being super cautious, however it does tend to reveal shortcomings that hopefully get taken care of.
JoeCamel
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I prefer my mass transport to be free of "freak incidents" thank you very much.
mikejs78
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There's no such thing as a perfect system. Look at air travel, one of the safest modes of transportation statistically speaking, and you have the recent incident with Southwest..
montyz81
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I just read an article that said they might use video technology for the windows. How cool would it be if they projected opening day of Epcot Center on the windows as you went around the park. Lets hope this rumor turns out to be true. The technology is way cool having experienced it at HP in Universal. https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs...rails-might-include-augmented-reality-windows
ABQ
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Yeah, go back a number of pages in this thread and you'll see all the discussion about that article.
https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/new-monorails-coming-soon.939855/page-47#post-8208678
V_L_Raptor
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That could backfire spectacularly once people get out of the monorail and wander around to see just how much of a hole Epcot has become.