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Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

lazyboy97o

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- There's no overall plan for the system. We vote to give them more money and they just have 5-10 year "studies" on what maybe should happen. There's nothing like in other systems where you'll see a map of: 1) today's map 2) under construction 3) future
And none of those expansions are to the existing system. That one is diesel commuter rail. That over there is BRT. This one is light rail but won’t work with the streetcar. That one will be right next to existing tracks, but we’re going to rip those out and build new ones.
 

TJ Vazquez

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I used to ride MARTA fairly often 10+ years back. Now it's too gross to bother with and the homeless people hassle you. I just don't bother any longer.

They've also done things like stop at North Ave station, when I'm trying to get the Philips Arena for an event, and announced, "Train is closed, get off!" There was nothing like, "Oh, buses are lined up outside to get you past the problem." Nope. Just, "Get off!" So if you were riding to the airport that day then sux2bu. This was about 10years back when I gave up on it. Before Uber. It just seemed like such a ridiculous way to run a transit system.

Add to it that:
- There's no overall plan for the system. We vote to give them more money and they just have 5-10 year "studies" on what maybe should happen. There's nothing like in other systems where you'll see a map of: 1) today's map 2) under construction 3) future
- not their fault, but when they try to expand it's always "racist". If they build into a black area then they're racist for splitting up / ruining the black neighborhood. If they don't build into a black area then they're racist for not building into the black neighborhood (no, I'm not kidding with this). The "Gold" line which used to be called the "Yellow" (like the "Red", "Green", and "Blue" lines) line just happened to end in a predominately Asian part of town. Yep: Racist! - so they changed it. They didn't change the color on the map. Just call it "Gold" now. Not everything is racist.
- The stations, outside of the urine smell, are just generally dingy. If they had a crew that just went from station to station and power washed everything, it's start being more appealing and maybe even would get rid of the urine smell (most potent in the elevators).

If you're in Atlanta, just drive.
I drive and take the train, luckily for me its fairly simple 20 minute train ride and 20 to the station but yeah its gross and unreliable but its also not funded by the state at all which is part of the problem.
 

nace888

Well-Known Member
Y'all are such creative discussers, LOL! I will say though, the trains have been getting their much needed TLC, last I recall and heard... No telling which is next though. Either way, I'm ALL for supporting new trains and whatnot, but unless Disney decided to play secret, we all know for sure that those trains would be posted etc etc etc. I know I'd made jokes about it, but it's just what it is...

IF there's new trains in the works, and Disney DOES want to play secret secret, you still have to consider purchase options, design options, length of build time, which then feeds what they're doing to the current fleet now...

If new trains are to be a thing (and I'm not saying they are or aren't (though I wish they were)), there's a fair amount of work to go into getting those new trains, which means they're sprucing up the current fleet to handle the next few years... That's of course, if it's a thing... I know some things, but don't quote me on THIS information.

Back to what I said though, if there's new trains, my opinion is an updated version of the paint scheme!! :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
 

Brad Bishop

Well-Known Member
Just adding...Driving Sucks in ATL. Love the city...hate the traffic. I would move back in a second if I could guarantee that I wouldn't have a 2 hour commute to live anywhere affordable.
Yes it does. I used to live outside of Atlanta and wouldn't mind a 20min trek to the park to hike with my dog. I now life at Atlantic Station and if I don't get up early, I know that I'm faced with just getting out of town and then just getting back into town. Atlanta also got a 1¢ sales tax increase for improvement of roads. No need to audit where the money is going now, the man on the street tells me he'll gladly give 1¢ over to make the roads better (because he's too stupid to realize that it's 1% tax on top of all of the other 1% taxes we have - UGH).

Anyway, they're doing "studies" now on the roads with no changes in sight. Also, they're encouraging people to bike/use other transportation (which doesn't work) by removing lanes / replacing them with bike lanes/side walks. They did this in California. It's called a street diet or traffic diet or some such nonsense.

WAY off topic from the monorails but, to be fair, nothing is happening there, either, other than rumors of contracts and whatnot for a fleet that should have been replaced 10 years back.... doesn't affect tickets, though.
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
Y'all are such creative discussers, LOL! I will say though, the trains have been getting their much needed TLC, last I recall and heard... No telling which is next though. Either way, I'm ALL for supporting new trains and whatnot, but unless Disney decided to play secret, we all know for sure that those trains would be posted etc etc etc. I know I'd made jokes about it, but it's just what it is...

IF there's new trains in the works, and Disney DOES want to play secret secret, you still have to consider purchase options, design options, length of build time, which then feeds what they're doing to the current fleet now...

If new trains are to be a thing (and I'm not saying they are or aren't (though I wish they were)), there's a fair amount of work to go into getting those new trains, which means they're sprucing up the current fleet to handle the next few years... That's of course, if it's a thing... I know some things, but don't quote me on THIS information.

Back to what I said though, if there's new trains, my opinion is an updated version of the paint scheme!! :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
Nothing wrong with the paint or the design of the cars. It is iconic but the hardware does need updating.
 

monothingie

Unscrupulous Mean Girl Man since 2005
Premium Member
So I went to the MK twice today on the monorail and noticed that they are now playing background music over the speakers inside the cabs. I was on Peach both times. It’s very low volume but it was themed just like the resort buses.


Also just passed by the monorail shop Lime looks like it is almost done with NO blue deltas.
 

ParksAndPixels

Well-Known Member
So I went to the MK twice today on the monorail and noticed that they are now playing background music over the speakers inside the cabs. I was on Peach both times. It’s very low volume but it was themed just like the resort buses.


Also just passed by the monorail shop Lime looks like it is almost done with NO blue deltas.
I’d had been a while before my most recent monorail ride (buses direct to parks). I was shocked at how bad the audio cue delays played. I knew it was a “thing” on here but wow! Hoping that can be addressed soon.
 

monothingie

Unscrupulous Mean Girl Man since 2005
Premium Member
I’d had been a while before my most recent monorail ride (buses direct to parks). I was shocked at how bad the audio cue delays played. I knew it was a “thing” on here but wow! Hoping that can be addressed soon.
So it was strange in that spiels and PA were at normal level, however the background music was very low. I had a relatively empty car and initially thought it was coming from outside the monorail, but I put my ear to the speaker and hear it play.
 

rmwebs

Active Member
Pretty sure the speakers on most of the cabs are shot, combined with the awful cues just makes it all a tad sad to listen to.

Y'all are such creative discussers, LOL! I will say though, the trains have been getting their much needed TLC, last I recall and heard... No telling which is next though.
Sadly its almost all cosmetic. The hardware is just in an awful state, and given parts are sparse it just means things will get worse. Even if they do manage to do some hardware upgrades, we've still got the god awful bumpy start-stop automation disaster running the show.
 

Rodan75

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The audio cues with the monorails got messed up with the new automation system, I believe. As for the jerkiness, it's being worked on, last I heard.
When we were there over the summer, the jerkiness in the automation was dramatically less than the year before, I would even say it was smoother than the last few years of actual piloted trains. But they had rampant door issues.
 

Figment2005

Well-Known Member
When we were there over the summer, the jerkiness in the automation was dramatically less than the year before, I would even say it was smoother than the last few years of actual piloted trains. But they had rampant door issues.
A good rule of thumb is if the stop in the station is smooth, then the pilot is in control. I would say it's about a 60/40 split with automatic/manual control now. It's up to the drivers for the most part on what they want to participate in.
 

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
So, took the TTC monorail to MK and there was a man in an ECV in our car. When we arrived we slipped out quickly because he had to wait for the ramp. Only... he didn't. Since you exit the same way you get in, he had to back out. And he forgot to wait for the ramp.

As we rounded the railing and was heading down the exit ramp, we heard a big crash. Looked back and he was on his back and had hit his head and the ECV was also on its back.

And that's what happens when your exit isn't flush with the vehicle and you don't tie down their ECV like on a bus and you make people back out of the way they came in and can't see that there's a drop and they forget they have to wait for a ramp.

Don't know his status, there was a crowd around him and a CM on a walkie talkie, so, we just cleared out.

Really hope the new monorails are flush.
 

ParksAndPixels

Well-Known Member
So, took the TTC monorail to MK and there was a man in an ECV in our car. When we arrived we slipped out quickly because he had to wait for the ramp. Only... he didn't. Since you exit the same way you get in, he had to back out. And he forgot to wait for the ramp.

As we rounded the railing and was heading down the exit ramp, we heard a big crash. Looked back and he was on his back and had hit his head and the ECV was also on its back.

And that's what happens when your exit isn't flush with the vehicle and you don't tie down their ECV like on a bus and you make people back out of the way they came in and can't see that there's a drop and they forget they have to wait for a ramp.

Don't know his status, there was a crowd around him and a CM on a walkie talkie, so, we just cleared out.

Really hope the new monorails are flush.
Hopefully wasn’t hurt too bad.
 
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