Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

[larryz]

ehhh that sounds a bit nuts, I go to Disney almost every week as a AP, if I had to pay everytime I would be a bit bothered. I look at the cost to park each time I enter, and lose my mind how much they charge for it. Also take into account for guests with kids above 6? if you charge 24 a a day per person, a normal family of lets say 4 your getting 96 bucks just to move through the parks.

It would be easy to include AP holders as "resort guests" and give them the transportation perk.

 

[jbolen2]

I’m not sure how it will work out but I don’t see new monorails getting approved without some time of new income directly from it. I hope I’m wrong and I think it would be a pr nightmare once some get free admission and some have to pay.

 

[msg7]

At the Hotel Hershey (Hersheypark) free transport via shuttle bus is provided to and from the park and you have to show the driver the ID.... However, they don't always check them.... I'd personally like to see this implemented on the resort monorail at least to avoid the congestion at MK closing.... It's just not fair to guests paying extra for monorail resorts...

 

[Jonathan Wang]

It would be easy to include AP holders as "resort guests" and give them the transportation perk.

which is fine, but you specifically said non resort-guests haha.

 

[s8film40]

I'd personally like to see this implemented on the resort monorail at least to avoid the congestion at MK closing.... It's just not fair to guests paying extra for monorail resorts...

That really would have a very minimal impact. There’s really only any congestion when operations intentionally diverts guests from the express line to the resort line. Beyond that only a select few guests know or would think to use the resort monorail for TTC. Those same guests would also be smart enough to just say they’re going to get something to eat at one of the resorts.

 

[msg7]

That really would have a very minimal impact. There’s really only any congestion when operations intentionally diverts guests from the express line to the resort line. Beyond that only a select few guests know or would think to use the resort monorail for TTC. Those same guests would also be smart enough to just say they’re going to get something to eat at one of the resorts.

Didn't even think about that... Posted it in a rush lol...

 

[lazyboy97o]

Honestly you don't want the monorail at shanghai disney, it would create more chaos than there already is, and with the design I feel it would be a disaster to add on.

What are you referring to as the monorail at Shanghai Disney Resort?

 

[Brad Bishop]

It would certainly create an efficiency nightmare, payment transactions would cause tremendous line backups. I assume a hypothetical paid transportation system would see them try to automate the transaction process by encouraging people to use their magic bands. Though this would still be incredibly slow.

Magic Band is tied to your credit card / hotel room... Put a reader on every bus, boat, and at every Monorail station. I could totally see them doing this. Tapping to get on is how every transportation system works now. You tap, you pay, you ride.

At this point it's really just a matter of installing the readers on every bus and boat (or maybe just at the docks) and then at each of the Monorail stations.

They charge for parking both at the parks and at their resorts, now. Why wouldn't they monetize their transportation system?

 

[s8film40]

Didn't even think about that... Posted it in a rush lol...

I agree though they should leave the resort monorail for resort guests. They just make such a big deal of getting the express line down as quick as possible.

 

[Brad Bishop]

They charge in Tokyo...

I think that they have to there because any "train" with more than one stop is considered public transportation and, thus, has to charge. It's why the train at Tokyo Disneyland only has the one stop and doesn't encircle the park.

 

[Brad Bishop]

Here's one to consider, and while I'd like to think that they wouldn't do this, I could see them with people and portable readers to make it happen: Paying for transportation on the parking lot trams.

I'd love to say we'd never see it, and perhaps we might not, but over the last few years we've seen plenty of "up charge for anything" initiatives so, if they'd charge for the other transportation, I could almost see them charging for trams.

 

[Jonathan Wang]

What are you referring to as the monorail at Shanghai Disney Resort?

i'm saying they shouldn't add one on.

 

[msg7]

I'm really liking @MouseBrayden 's concept for the new monorail. (He used an Innovia 300 in his proposal...) I like the black "frame?" I guess you can call it, running the length of the train over the windows.... Just change the nose and you'll have something looking even more like the Mark VI except more sleek and futuristic.....

Just don't mess with my stripe, nose, or please stand clear of the doors and everything should be ok

 

[ppete1975]

Monorail has always been more of an experience than a transportation. Yes it takes you places but so does the train (I know they are totally different), lots of people ride the monorail just to ride the monorail. nobody ever rides the bus to just ride a bus. To me the boats, the monorail, the train, the people mover are more rides than transportation. The buses are a necessary evil because of how far away the resorts are... try walking from por to animal kingdom. Could they monetize some of these... they could but do you really see them making people pay to go from epcot to WDW, or force them to buses. The monorail is still on every commercial and every pamphlet.
I can see them adding where you have to scan your magic band (pools should be the same) but they shouldn't charge.

Totally different from parking, which although its a money grab its pretty common now among hotels, and outside of people who go often most people aren't going to think twice.

 

[Jonathan Wang]

I'm really liking @MouseBrayden 's concept for the new monorail. (He used an Innovia 300 in his proposal...) I like the black "frame?" I guess you can call it, running the length of the train over the windows.... Just change the nose and you'll have something looking even more like the Mark VI except more sleek and futuristic.....

Just don't mess with my stripe, nose, or please stand clear of the doors and everything should be ok

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yea the design he mocked up was pretty good, however i sortve have the slightest thought that we might have a similar design to DL design.

 

[ppete1975]

I agree though they should leave the resort monorail for resort guests. They just make such a big deal of getting the express line down as quick as possible.

Lots of people like to go to the resorts to eat and to shop. Especially poly and contemporary. Parking you have to realize everyone charges for it at the lot (six flags, your local theme park. lots of zoos), lots of hotels do and I wonder if people were parking at hotels and then taking the transportation as a loop hole to not paying for parking (I really don't know I magic express when I go, so not sure if they check that upon entering the hotel lots)

 

[Kman101]

At it's core, the monorail IS *just* transportation. But at the time, they took a transportation mode and made it a part of the experience. Now the line seems more blurred. It's transportation that's part of the experience. Or how it should be.

 

[Biff215]

Lots of people like to go to the resorts to eat and to shop. Especially poly and contemporary. Parking you have to realize everyone charges for it at the lot (six flags, your local theme park. lots of zoos), lots of hotels do and I wonder if people were parking at hotels and then taking the transportation as a loop hole to not paying for parking (I really don't know I magic express when I go, so not sure if they check that upon entering the hotel lots)

They have checked for a long time, particularly when it's busy. They can refuse non-resort guests, or verify an existing dining reservation. Before MagicBands security often had a printout of all reservations, especially at the Contemporary. Since resort guests get free parking at the parks, security was usually willing to allow them to park at the MK resorts so the loophole was essentially closed. Didn't stop plenty of people from finding ways to beat the system though.

 

[marni1971]

Bombardier is just getting around to delivering NYC transit cars ordered 10 years ago. Disney is a small customer that will require a very customized Innova type train. I’d be happy to see it in a three year timespan, but I think you will be lucky to get it in a decade.

Should anything happen, Bombardiers internal backlog wouldn’t have much of an impact on anything that may or may not happen in Orlando.

I 'member reading verbiage about a dollar plus from each ticket going to WDW Transportation... Can't find an image, but I 'member...

There used to be small print on park passes... hang on...

The back of a 1993 super duper pass:

 

[msg7]

Now what would happen with the existing Thales automation system if they got new monorails? Would they bring it over to the new trains or would Bombardier implement one of their city flow systems?