Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
seascape said:
If your rule 2 were correct, please explain all the construction going on at both WDW and DL.
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All those projects are designed to create additional incremental revenue so Disney is spending on them See Ford's 1'st rule If a rumor will create additional revenue, It's happening.

Hotels, Restaurants, Retail and to some degree new lands create revenue - so disney spends grudgingly on them.

Yet guest amenities and entertainment continue to be slashed in accordance with Ford's third rule for rumors If something is being removed which will improve profitability It's happening.


Monorails, Parades, Entertainment all COST TDO money without producing incremental revenue. Now of course if TDO could figure out how to upcharge guests for using the monorail new ones would be here in a flash.

Until then dream on about New monorails.
 
zakattack99

zakattack99

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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ford91exploder said:
All those projects are designed to create additional incremental revenue so Disney is spending on them See Ford's 1'st rule If a rumor will create additional revenue, It's happening.

Hotels, Restaurants, Retail and to some degree new lands create revenue - so disney spends grudgingly on them.

Yet guest amenities and entertainment continue to be slashed in accordance with Ford's third rule for rumors If something is being removed which will improve profitability It's happening.


Monorails, Parades, Entertainment all COST TDO money without producing incremental revenue. Now of course if TDO could figure out how to upcharge guests for using the monorail new ones would be here in a flash.

Until then dream on about New monorails.
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Wait are you referring to yourself in the third person?!? Have you laid out your "rules" in a post? I can't seem to find Ford's Rules on Disney Rumors...
 
the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
ford91exploder said:
All those projects are designed to create additional incremental revenue so Disney is spending on them See Ford's 1'st rule If a rumor will create additional revenue, It's happening.

Hotels, Restaurants, Retail and to some degree new lands create revenue - so disney spends grudgingly on them.

Yet guest amenities and entertainment continue to be slashed in accordance with Ford's third rule for rumors If something is being removed which will improve profitability It's happening.


Monorails, Parades, Entertainment all COST TDO money without producing incremental revenue. Now of course if TDO could figure out how to upcharge guests for using the monorail new ones would be here in a flash.

Until then dream on about New monorails.
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Pokes hole

Spending capital on new monorail trains would preserve existing, and highly profitable, nightly rates at the monorail loop resorts.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
the.dreamfinder said:
Pokes hole

Spending capital on new monorail trains would preserve existing, and highly profitable, nightly rates at the monorail loop resorts.
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You know that and I know that, Heck when I USED to visit WDW riding every inch of the monorails was one of my favorite things to do. People think I want these things to happen but no, I just think like a soulless MBA looking for their next BIG BONUS and project accordingly.

That said how does one PROVE to TDO executives not thinking past their next quarterly bonus, They are not thinking about preserving rates at the hotels 5 years from now, How does one show the benefits of new trains to people like that. It's not like a new restaurant where revenue is virtually guaranteed at WDW due to the scarcity of dining options relative to crowd size.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
zakattack99 said:
Wait are you referring to yourself in the third person?!? Have you laid out your "rules" in a post? I can't seem to find Ford's Rules on Disney Rumors...
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I have many times and only three exist. This thread has them all but since you ask

Ford's WDW Rumor Rules

1 - If a rumor about WDW will create new incremental revenue, It's happening
2 - If a rumor about WDW will cost WDW money without incremental revenue it's NOT happening
3- If a rumor about WDW will save WDW money It's happening.

Apply these to all WDW rumors and track the results, You don't even need 'insiders'. But these rules are pretty much applicable to any US based corporation as they are based on the Our REAL customer is Wall Street mentality notable exceptions being Amazon/Facebook who do not care what Wall St wants.

Rule #2 has exceptions around security/govt issues where WDW has no choice in the matter.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
marni1971 said:
I wouldn’t say new monorails have been ordered.
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Well, if they haven't been ordered and the MK MSt. Theater money didn't go toward new monorails, then the only thing left of Tom's claims is that the door incident is triggering a decision to get new monorails more now-ish than later-ish.

Is that the part you were intimating is true when you said there's something there to his claims?
 
monothingie

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
montyz81 said:
Hey if used is good enough for AirForceOne then it is good enough for WDW and it's monorails. I hear there are a few used ones in a junk yard in Las Vagas somewhere.
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There may be even more somewhere in Central Florida.
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At least one of the LV ones was crushed at a Monster Truck show. There is youtube video of it, it is very hard to watch...
 
marni1971

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
MisterPenguin said:
Well, if they haven't been ordered and the MK MSt. Theater money didn't go toward new monorails, then the only thing left of Tom's claims is that the door incident is triggering a decision to get new monorails more now-ish than later-ish.

Is that the part you were intimating is true when you said there's something there to his claims?
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"Now-ish than later-ish". I like that.
 
bcoachable

bcoachable

Well-Known Member
I wonder if they bigs are contemplating a monorail present for MK on it’s birthday... could bombardier fill an order in time for a few trains by then?
 
wm49rs

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
ford91exploder said:
I have many times and only three exist. This thread has them all but since you ask

Ford's WDW Rumor Rules

1 - If a rumor about WDW will create new incremental revenue, It's happening
2 - If a rumor about WDW will cost WDW money without incremental revenue it's NOT happening
3- If a rumor about WDW will save WDW money It's happening.

Apply these to all WDW rumors and track the results, You don't even need 'insiders'. But these rules are pretty much applicable to any US based corporation as they are based on the Our REAL customer is Wall Street mentality notable exceptions being Amazon/Facebook who do not care what Wall St wants.

Rule #2 has exceptions around security/govt issues where WDW has no choice in the matter.
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Left off #4- These posts are admittedly completely full of b#ll#cks....
 
Bender123

Bender123

Well-Known Member
marni1971 said:
A few? Probably. A whole fleet? Doubtful.
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I remember how weird it was when the Mark VI came out...It was neat to get on one which was new and then one that was old on the same beam. I cant recall what order they came out, but it was an interesting time to be a monorail fan.
 

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