Rumor New Monorails Coming Soon?

Tom P.

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If Disney is serious about new monorails at this point, I doubt they'd be having serious conversations with Bombardier if their backlog prevented them from delivering for 10 years. Presumably, they have indicated they could deliver on a faster schedule or Disney would be looking elsewhere. Just my speculation, though.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
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I’d expect Bombardier to still be involved. If something happened of course.

TBH, other than cosmetic issues and the wheelchair issue, mechanically the trains are in relatively good shape. They've been automated, the wiring has been replaced, and recent train rehabs have cleaned up the exterior and paint. Unless they're bringing in a vendor to retrofit the interiors and clean up some other things with the trains, I don't foresee any movement on new trains for now. I would suspect they can get another 10-15 years out of these before replacement.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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Hey if used is good enough for AirForceOne then it is good enough for WDW and it's monorails. I hear there are a few used ones in a junk yard in Las Vagas somewhere.
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There may be even more somewhere in Central Florida.
The new Air Force Ones* are pre-owned, but were never used. Word I have is that the airline went out of business before delivery.

*Technically, they aren't "Air Force One" until the President's aboard...
 
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SteveAZee

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Do they move the 12 (or however many they have in service at a time) between the three routes often? It was mentioned that one issue with new monorails was needing to possibly/potentially alter the load/unload stations, so I was wondering if they could order enough to (let's say) first just support the express track (with adjustments made accordingly), saving the best of the 12 for the other two tracks and continue the roll out that way. Spread the cost over the next 8 to 10 years.
 

msg7

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Do they move the 12 (or however many they have in service at a time) between the three routes often? It was mentioned that one issue with new monorails was needing to possibly/potentially alter the load/unload stations, so I was wondering if they could order enough to (let's say) first just support the express track (with adjustments made accordingly), saving the best of the 12 for the other two tracks and continue the roll out that way. Spread the cost over the next 8 to 10 years.
Yes. However, I believe 2 are kept in the shop at all times....
 

montyz81

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The new Air Force Ones* are pre-owned, but were never used. Word I have is that the airline went out of business before delivery.

*Technically, they aren't "Air Force One" until the President's aboard...
I did know that. And, it was a Russian company.
 

Disone

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Do they move the 12 (or however many they have in service at a time) between the three routes often? It was mentioned that one issue with new monorails was needing to possibly/potentially alter the load/unload stations, so I was wondering if they could order enough to (let's say) first just support the express track (with adjustments made accordingly), saving the best of the 12 for the other two tracks and continue the roll out that way. Spread the cost over the next 8 to 10 years.
They can run 12 all at once. My guess is that it is not very common that all 12 are operationally available and also needed. For example right now Monorail black is under the knife and is definitely not available for operational use. So assuming all the other trains are available they only have 11 that they can use. But 12 has happened.

It did happen this past December. It was the busy holiday season and I noticed the Epcot line was running four monorails. Honestly I'd never seen this before. Epcot used to consistently Run 3 monorails, now more often than not they run two, and occasionally when they're busy they go back to running three. So I was shocked but pleasently surprised in a fun way to see them running four. At the epcot station I inquired about the four trains and the monorail cast member proudly proclaimed they have a train dispatching every few minutes and also shared that it was a rare day where all 12 trains were running at the same time. 3-5-4.

I really could not verify that the express line had three in the resort line had five, but the Epcot line definitely had four. Gold, Coral, Red and Black. Even with four it was very smooth with no traffic holds and just cruised at speed to the TTC and back.

I was riding round trip just to see the construction at the Magic Kingdom toll plaza area. Yes, yes I'm a geek.
 
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msg7

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They can run 12 all at once. My guess is that it is not very common that all 12 are operationally available and also needed. For example right now Montreal black is under the knife and is definitely not available for operational use. So assuming all the other trains are available they only have 11 that they can use. But 12 has happened.

It did happen this past December. It was the busy holiday season and I noticed the Epcot line was running four monorails. Honestly I'd never seen this before. Epcot used to consistently Run 3 monorails, now more often than not they run two, and occasionally when they're busy they go back to running three. So I was shocked but pleasently surprised in a fun way to see them running four. At the epcot station I inquired about the four trains and the monorail cast member proudly proclaimed they have a train dispatching every few minutes and also shared that it was a rare day where all 12 trains were running at the same time. 3-5-4.

I really could not verify that the express line had three in the resort line had five, but the Epcot line definitely had four. Gold, Coral, Red and Black. Even with four it was very smooth with no traffic holds and just cruised at speed to the TTC and back.

I was riding round trip just to see the construction at the Magic Kingdom toll plaza area. Yes, yes I'm a geek.
Maybe Disney found out that running 2 was more efficient than 3. Almost like how Cedar Point and Six Flags Great Adventure found out that Top Thrill Dragster and Kingda Ka were both more efficient at 4 train than 5....
 

Disone

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Maybe Disney found out that running 2 was more efficient than 3. Almost like how Cedar Point and Six Flags Great Adventure found out that Top Thrill Dragster and Kingda Ka were both more efficient at 4 train than 5....
Then why would they ever run 4? More likely in this scenario they just know that running two is enough. And really aside from Park exit, when is an Epcot monorail train full?

That's said, I do understand your question and specifically on the Magic Kingdom Express line, I would not be surprised to find out that three is more efficient than four.
 
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Goofyernmost

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Yep, to me, one door flying open is a million doors too many.
Then if I were you I would never leave my house, because there are many, many unforeseen dangers out there and things happen that are completely out of anyone's control. It's alright to be concerned and look for reassurance that this isn't a normal problem, but, to act like it is in anyone's power to control everything that might happen, is just plain foolishness.

Look up on line and see how many people are killed or injured just sitting in their own home, when objects fall from the sky, incompetent or influenced driver place their vehicles through your walls landing on your favorite chair while you are still in it. Or electrical malfunctions. There is no place that can guarantee complete protection from freak things happening. You can huddle in a corner or take your chances and get out and experience life with all of it's unknown dangers and challenges and actually live life.
 

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