Incomudro
Well-Known Member
No way.
Are you seriously trying to tell me that these trains were built with doors that could be jettisoned off of their hinges if an overly large human fell against them from the inside?
Get real.
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No way.
Are you seriously trying to tell me that these trains were built with doors that could be jettisoned off of their hinges if an overly large human fell against them from the inside?
Get real.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Who said the door was poorly maintained?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I assume Disney will investigate. Does the public get to see these results?
Voxel
President of Progress City
Is it poorly maintained doors.. Perhaps a supplier cheaped out on replacements parts means the Bolts were weak. Is that Disney's fault? Nope and it's plausible. We've see poor manufacturing QA cause entire Rockets to fail.
s8film40
Well-Known Member
I’ve watched an entire carload of guests force their way out of the train. The metal arms bent way before the fiberglass door would’ve ever broken off.
The key is here it doesn’t look like the fiberglass door broke it looks like it simply fell off. The scooter ramming it to the point of it coming off should’ve cracked the door.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
It absolutely could have been very bad.
But, without knowing more details we don’t know exactly where the fault lies.
s8film40
Well-Known Member
Not unless legally required of Disney. If it were an OSHA thing or something we would likely get to see a report. If the family sued they’ll probably settle just to keep it from going to court for that very reason.
s8film40
Well-Known Member
Definitely true, and just to be clear I’m only speculating as to the cause.
An ECV can reach a speeds of several mph. It seems as this was not someone simply leaning or falling against the door, this appears to be a heavy object impacting the door at considerable speed which in turn exceeded door hardware connection's strength causing ti to break.
Voxel
President of Progress City
No.. That's not terrible maintenance.. Say your doing yearly replacement of the door bolts and you use the bolts given to you from a supplier. You don't know if that Bolt will perform under the stress it's rated for, you work on faith that the manufacture wouldn't lie to you. 4 bad bolts, could easy break off under the right pressure. The maintenance crew did their job correctly.. (This is all hypothetical though).
Incomudro
Well-Known Member
And a large, heavy human can't reach several mph's with or without a scooter?
So, in theory - a door could be broken completely off if impacted by an obese person?
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Parts failing and parts being damaged are very different scenarios. I’m reasonably confident the designers of those trains never considered several hundred pounds of motorized vehicle with a several hundred pound guest driving it into the doors.
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
I would have thought all the attachments on all the doors would have been inspected after the last incident where the door opened while in motion. And I don't care how much ECV and driver weigh, a bolt will not break from that low of force unless it is damaged.
On the new monorail question - if they ordered new trains and it is public knowledge can you imagine the lawsuit if someone was hurt before they were delivered? By placing the order they admit these trains are worn and need replacing. I can hear the saliva dripping from the lawyers lips to get a case like that.
On the new monorail question - if they ordered new trains and it is public knowledge can you imagine the lawsuit if someone was hurt before they were delivered? By placing the order they admit these trains are worn and need replacing. I can hear the saliva dripping from the lawyers lips to get a case like that.
Class 2 Mobility Scooters max out at 4MPH, Class 3 Mobility Scooters can reach speeds of 8MPH.
Voxel
President of Progress City
A bolt will break if a manufacture is lying about the specs or trying to cheap out. A great example of this is the iMac Pro visa mount where the manufacture wanted to save 4 cents a unit and shipped bolts where the head would pop off when you tried to loosen it after use.
Clearly they didn't anticipate anyone using any kind of wheelchair, stroller, ECV otherwise they would have designed them with a different door assembly, and being flat with the platform, and also not initially having the fold up seat compartment in the centers of each cab.
Voxel
President of Progress City
Agreed it’s a terrifying scenario and one that happens more often than ppl think. I don’t know if that’s what happened hear but cause I’m an engineer I tend to think about what could have failed in that realm.