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JenniferS

When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
In what other areas do you think it is appropriate to misattribute causes? Would you say it’s pointless to correct someone who claimed Disneyland was inspired by Six Flags Over Texas?
No. Body. Cares.
For those of us just looking for pics, videos, and first-hand reviews, none of this back and forth is interesting, informative, or pertinent.
Can we please just move on?
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
And as I've said now numerous times I could be wrong. Also please note that I'm in no way trying to denigrate what is obviously something you have at least a passion for if not a direct knowledge due to professional usage.

Your assertion is that there is nothing in the code that governs the decisions to why it was built as large as it was, is it possible that you could be wrong? I mean even just a little? My issue has been that you don't leave open not even a possibility that you could be wrong. I at least leave open that possibility in all my discussions, because maybe there is something I don't know even if I am an expert in said discussion (not saying I am in this case).

The building I assume is classified under Group M occupancy. So the question is if there is something in the codes that has a greater than 7'6" ceiling requirement under that group.
If you went to visit a friend or family member in a city you’ve visited before, and on heading out to somewhere they said “Hey, turn around, you’re going the wrong way” would you immediately quip back “Maybe you’re wrong?”. Would you say “Maybe not?” at every turn? Would you continue to go on about how they could have been wrong even after giving your correct directions and getting you to your destination?

The question has been answered. There are ambiguous areas of the codes, and they come up with unique things like theme park attractions, but retail just isn’t really one of those areas. Group M is a very common and rather run-of-the-mill occupancy unless you’re selling something considered hazardous. The codes would be fairly useless if they were just a big mystery box and couldn’t provide determinative direction. The IBC codes are organized around buildings elements/components so there are not too many places to look. There is also the index that can be referenced, but California’s does fall short as misses California specific content. Run a page search on any chapter. It’s not hiding somewhere else.

No. Body. Cares.
For those of us just looking for pics, videos, and first-hand reviews, none of this back and forth is interesting, informative, or pertinent.
Can we please just move on?
I don’t find trip reports interesting but I’m not telling you to stop posting them. You’d be annoyed if people were posting fake pictures or bogus reviews.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
If you went to visit a friend or family member in a city you’ve visited before, and on heading out to somewhere they said “Hey, turn around, you’re going the wrong way” would you immediately quip back “Maybe you’re wrong?”. Would you say “Maybe not?” at every turn? Would you continue to go on about how they could have been wrong even after giving your correct directions and getting you to your destination?
There a multiple ways to get to a destination, just because you think you know the only way doesn't mean its the best or even the right way. Its only the arrogant person that thinks they know the only way to the destination.

The question has been answered. There are ambiguous areas of the codes, and they come up with unique things like theme park attractions, but retail just isn’t really one of those areas. Group M is a very common and rather run-of-the-mill occupancy unless you’re selling something considered hazardous. The codes would be fairly useless if they were just a big mystery box and couldn’t provide determinative direction. The IBC codes are organized around buildings elements/components so there are not too many places to look. There is also the index that can be referenced, but California’s does fall short as misses California specific content. Run a page search on any chapter. It’s not hiding somewhere else.
Thank you for the information, though maybe do it with a bit less condescension next time. Not everyone is an expert in this field, some people want to actually learn with explanations rather than being told to go lookup a bunch of codes. If you're going to come in here anyways and correct people when they say something about building codes (something no one asked you to do) then might as well use it as a teaching opportunity.
 

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