mickEblu
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Yeah it’s hard for me to believe this was the design intent. Something isn’t being executed quite like they hoped.
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Yeah it’s hard for me to believe this was the design intent. Something isn’t being executed quite like they hoped.
mickEblu
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Not sure why they didn’t just revert to a modernized version of the 70s to 95 figure? Instead we got a beating heart mute Constance.
Consumer
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Exactly. It would have been easier and cheaper, but I guess then WDI’s ego wouldn’t have been satisfied if they didn’t do something unique.
mickEblu
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Exactly it. Great point. Same reason they didn’t include Facilier (or a replacement) in TBA.
HMF
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My article on the history of the attic with my thoughts on the new bride.
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The History of the "Heart" of Disney's Haunted Mansion
The Haunted Mansion's Attic Scene's evolution through the years.
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SuddenStorm
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This is also just a grim reminder that no one in WDI has the talent to design figures that fit alongside Marc Davis's designs- pirates and Mansion both suffer heavily from this now since they keep insisting on messing with these.
Magenta Panther
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I understand some of the naysaying about the new bride...but I still think she's a vast improvement over Constance. I like her design, which probably looks better in person, and getting rid of the axe-murderer aspect was probably a good idea. My one caveat is that I wish she'd do something besides float...maybe have tears streaming down her face. I presume she's a ghost in mourning, since she lost so many husbands (whose deaths were apparently not her doing). She could be called the Weeping Widow ghost, or something. Anyway, I like this change. Kudos to Imagineering. Doesn't make up for the desecration of Splash Mountain, but at least it's not a disaster.
mickEblu
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Is this why her face is so narrow? Also, can we talk about how ghost Constance looks nothing like the Constance in the portraits now?
She's just a little light headed.
Professortango1
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Yes, he has Klippel-Feil syndrome. Are we mocking people for Health Conditions they were born unto?
MerlinTheGoat
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To the comments about the bride's face and neck having "unnaturally" long and thin proportions. This is the intended design, she is no longer a replication of a true to life human anymore. Constance was already one of the very small handful of characters that used a video recording of a real live actor's face, same as Leota and the singing busts. However, the remainder and vast majority of the characters in the ride were designed by Marc Davis and had his traditionally stylized and hyper exaggerated facial features that were not supposed to look like real people.
This new bride is definitely no longer trying to look "real", it has very similar features to many of Marc Davis' female characters. I can think of several of his designs off the top of my head that have similarly thin lanky features to this bride in fact. In particular, a bit of Anita from 101 Dalmations and even Maleficent's extremely thin face and neck and her high cheek bones.
If you're not into this style, that's fine. But I do get the sense that some of you outright just didn't even catch the fact that the bride was deliberately redesigned not to look like a real human anymore. I don't usually call people out like this. But I do think some of yall are getting a bit ridiculous with at least some of your criticisms (not all of course as it isn't my personal favorite bride either). And i'm sorry but you may actually be a bit crazy if you think this looks better by comparison, because woof-
This new bride is definitely no longer trying to look "real", it has very similar features to many of Marc Davis' female characters. I can think of several of his designs off the top of my head that have similarly thin lanky features to this bride in fact. In particular, a bit of Anita from 101 Dalmations and even Maleficent's extremely thin face and neck and her high cheek bones.
If you're not into this style, that's fine. But I do get the sense that some of you outright just didn't even catch the fact that the bride was deliberately redesigned not to look like a real human anymore. I don't usually call people out like this. But I do think some of yall are getting a bit ridiculous with at least some of your criticisms (not all of course as it isn't my personal favorite bride either). And i'm sorry but you may actually be a bit crazy if you think this looks better by comparison, because woof-
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truecoat
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I'm just saying it would satisfy people that think her neck is too long.
Tha Realest
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When was that bride created? Was it meant to capitalize on the popularity of ABC’s Sabrina the Teenage Witch and its breakout star Caroline Rhea?
mickEblu
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Huh? Are we looking at the same bride? When was your last visit to the optometrist? What doesn’t look human about this?
MerlinTheGoat
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Constance was introduced in 2006 I believe, at least at Disneyland. I think WDW got theirs roughly around that same time, maybe within the same year. I can see why you'd mention Aunt Hilda though lol. To her credit, the actual face actress for Constance is much more normal looking and attractive and nowhere near as unflattering as that effect conveys, the various portraits around the room are als more representative of what she looks like-
The entire figure of Constance has always looked awful though. For a number of reasons, not just because it used a flat facial surface instead of the sculpted ones of Leota and the busts. The lighting itself was very unflattering too. As was the physical veil they used to surround the head, which resembled a barton bandage... The shape, lighting and everything really just didn't work. Like I said, I prefer the bride not have a visible face at all, but the other much face projected characters in the ride are evidence that the Constance effect could have been done so much better as well.
For lack of a better phrase, she's based off a somewhat stylized drawing of a woman with features that would be exceptionally rare if not unheard of in real life. I believe you and others asked what the deal is with her oddly proportioned neck, cheekbones etc, and this is the answer. It's the same reason why Maleficent has a super long face, pointed nose and chin and unnaturally high and sharp cheekbones. Features that they attempted to replicate in the live action form by using copious amounts of prosthetics and makeup.
Constance, Leota and the busts resemble real people because they are video recordings of real people. The rest of the characters in the ride including this new bride were fabricated based off of artistic drawings. There is a huge visual difference between the two styles. This bride is a departure from the projected real actor style and is instead much more similar to a Marc Davis character.
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