Vernonpush
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I agree with that. I will have to see it again, once it's all finished.
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Justin Jones
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Yes, you can refit old figures with A-100 arms. Most of the compliance technology is used in the arms anyway. That's the part of the figure that needs to move the quickest. As long as the shoulder mechanism can absorb the vibrations from the arms, then the rest of the figure will be okay.
TTATraveler
Active Member
I agree. I can't comment about the frequency of ride rehabs at WDW vs DL, but it does seem like there are many rides in WDW in need of a rehab, TLC, or plussing.
I don't agree that "East Coasters" are necessarily opposed to refurbishment. They are only opposed when their favorite ride is closed during their vacation.
I thought there was a time not that long ago when DL was in some desperate need maintenance. The Happiest Homecoming on Earth seemed to reverse that. It is way time for some of the TLC applied in DL over the last few years to make its way over to WDW, specifically at the Magic Kingdom.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Totally get that. I went all the way to Tokyo Disneyland, a 12 hour flight, and was bummed that Small World and Jungle Cruise were closed when I was there. But I still had a blast, and the upkeep of Tokyo Disneyland is so amazingly beyond what we have in the American parks that it leaves your jaw dropped open.
But you have to close attractions for refurbishment regularly, or else you end up with rides in the sorry condition that I noticed on my last trip to WDW.
No matter what time of year you do it, you are always going to have someone "on vacation" at WDW who will be bummed out that their favorite ride is closed for refurbishment. There's no away around that. But if you defer refurbishment for years on end, then you end up with an even more sorry state of affairs for those folks spending their hard earned vacation dollars on a trip to WDW.
There will always be someone on vacation at WDW, but you still have to maintain the place and close facilities for refurbishment and upkeep.
Figment571
Member
I can't say I agree with the take on "East Coasters" I happen to be one and all the others I know wish there was more upkeep of the attractions. I frankly can't stand that they let them get into terrible condition before they even put a new coat of paint on it, if you get what I'm saying. It's a lot different than what Walt wanted.
Mucho coolio! Here`s hoping then....
MythBuster
Active Member
At American Adventure, the Ben Franklin walking up the stairs is a hybrid A-100.
SDav10495
Member
As for the comment about East Coasters--well of course it's not completely true; it's only a generalization, and as we here on the boards know there are many East Coasters who wish their favorite WDW attractions would get a lot more love than they do.
There is some truth, though, in claiming that the WDW crowd in general complains about rehabs more than the DL crowd does...but is that really surprising? Despite the Disney's best efforts to make DLR a vacation destination, it is still very much a local park visited by people who can actually make the trip easily and fairly frequently. WDW, on the other hand, has always been a vacation destination, and so you get more people visiting who may not be able to return as easily. Though I would certainly not say I'm opposed to rehabs, it's a much bigger deal to me if my favorite ride at WDW is down during my biennial trip than if my favorite ride is down at Playland here in the NY area...thus, thought they may be all for ride rehabs, East Coasters (and the WDW crowd in general) are more likely to have a "not during my vacation" attitude about it.
There is some truth, though, in claiming that the WDW crowd in general complains about rehabs more than the DL crowd does...but is that really surprising? Despite the Disney's best efforts to make DLR a vacation destination, it is still very much a local park visited by people who can actually make the trip easily and fairly frequently. WDW, on the other hand, has always been a vacation destination, and so you get more people visiting who may not be able to return as easily. Though I would certainly not say I'm opposed to rehabs, it's a much bigger deal to me if my favorite ride at WDW is down during my biennial trip than if my favorite ride is down at Playland here in the NY area...thus, thought they may be all for ride rehabs, East Coasters (and the WDW crowd in general) are more likely to have a "not during my vacation" attitude about it.
You mean the `93 rehab added compliance to the `82 walking AA? Or maybe we`re all getting confused; are there any examples of compliance `limbs` added to earlier AAs?
Lee
Adventurer
That's what I was confused about. I know of "hybrids", but not of an existing AA being "converted" to add compliance. :shrug:
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Great thoughts on the difference between East Coasters and West Coasters and their acceptance of attractions closed for refurbishment. Although I would bet that the thousands of people per day visiting Disneyland from Seattle or Sydney or Singapore would argue that their vacation was expensive enough and major enough to warrant a closure-free Disneyland. But I totally get that the Disneyland Annual Passholder who drove 20 minutes from Laguna Beach wouldn't mind the closures as much as the person in line next to them who flew in from Seoul.
What really makes me scratch my head though, is that they would close Haunted Mansion for several months for it's desperately needed refurbishment..... wait for it..... RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON!
Honestly, if you are going to close a major E Ticket in a park that doesn't have enough of them, why not wait until Autumn when the crowds head back to work and school?
mousermerf
Account Suspended
Compliance is the ability to move toward a point by accelerating, overshoot, and then counter the action to return to the correct spot. People do it naturally.
Just move your arm to an aimed-for spot, and you'll slightly overshoot and then return to it.
Animatronics originally could only goto a spot, and if they overshot, they overshot. If they stopped at the spot suddenly, they jerked - too much momentum/force not being properly released. Sort of like a car hitting a brick wall.
So, it's really not the frame, but rather the individual part that's moving.
CaptainMichael
Well-Known Member
Honestly, if you are going to close a major E Ticket in a park that doesn't have enough of them, why not wait until Autumn when the crowds head back to work and school?
Mickey's Not so Scary Halloween Party/ Halloween in general:wave:
SDav10495
Member
This is very true, thanks for pointing it out...I guess I should have also made the point that DLR is in the middle of a bustling metropolitan area with tons of things to see and do, most of them not involving riding along a track in an amusement park, so to those tourists there's probably less of a feeling that they're really missing a piece of their vacation when one ride at DL is closed. WDW, on the other hand, pretty much created the city around it and most people still travel to Orlando to take in the attractions at area theme parks. Since most of those visitors will be spending their week on nothing but rides, it has a greater impact on the vacation when a favorite one is down for rehab.
I guess think about it this way--if every ride in both DLR and WDW were down for rehab, which week would feel more empty: the one you spent in LA, or the one you spent in central Florida?
Justin Jones
New Member
Most of the figures in the American Adventure are examples of AAs with compliant limbs.
Justin Jones
New Member
Mousemerf is exactly right. The individual part must have the ability to absorb the shock. That's why AAs fitted with compliant arms work -- beacuse the individual parts (arms) can absorb the shock).
Bullredchaser
New Member
The main change I would like to see on SSE is in the begining.I liked it before they added the TV screens explaining what the cab and ride did.No other ride has a spoiler like this.The Tv screens are cheasy and spoil the feeling of traveling back in time.The light shining down before was much better.Also once you get to the top it would be nice if they changed the clay cavemen and mammoths scene to something more realistic.With all the new technology available Im hoping for something great in this section.To me this ride is what Epcot was all about then,now,and the future.And the upgrades to modernize it are very important while keeping the original intent of the ride.
landauh
Active Member
What really makes me scratch my head though, is that they would close Haunted Mansion for several months for it's desperately needed refurbishment..... wait for it..... RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER SEASON!
Honestly, if you are going to close a major E Ticket in a park that doesn't have enough of them, why not wait until Autumn when the crowds head back to work and school?
What many people on this board seem to overlook in how refrubs are scheduled is based on available manpower and outside contractors. Disney must properly schedule a refrub to take advantage of when it has the personnel available to do the work. Also, if an outside contractor must be used for part of the refrub, Disney might be limited as to when the contractor can fit Disney into it's own schedule.
Disney might have other plans/requirements for the engineers and outside contractors that preclude them from moving these refrubs to the slower Fall and Winter seasons.