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[flynnibus]

maximum ventilation gondolas confirmed

 

[Rteetz]

I hope the emergency phones work in THESE cabins!

And what if they don’t have them? I’m pretty sure they don’t. Unlike a monorail there are multiple back ups in place for a gondola system. We’ve discussed this multiple times in this thread.

 

[GoofGoof]

I hope the emergency phones work in THESE cabins!

No need for emergency phones. They will have WiFi...they can just add an emergency evacuation button to the app.

 

[Goofyernmost]

No need for emergency phones. They will have WiFi...they can just add an emergency evacuation button to the app.

It will be called... The "stick a fork in me, I'm done" button.

 

[DisneyCane]

There will almost certainly always be a bus service, simply to prevent an ADA lawsuit on behalf of those with a fear of heights. It will be drastically reduced, during normal operations, but have to spring into action for closures, again, something that, I think, remains a mystery at this point, as to how often such closures will take place.

I don't know for sure but wouldn't think fear of heights would be covered under ADA. Otherwise claustrophobia would force ridiculous things like personal monorail cabins.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I don't know for sure but wouldn't think fear of heights would be covered under ADA. Otherwise claustrophobia would force ridiculous things like personal monorail cabins.

It isn't covered, that is not a handicap that is a phobia. If ADA covered all possible phobia's it would be likely that there wouldn't be anything left to do except stay home and even that might be a problem.

 

[monothingie]

And what if they don’t have them? I’m pretty sure they don’t. Unlike a monorail there are multiple back ups in place for a gondola system. We’ve discussed this multiple times in this thread.

They have the same backup system, the RCID FD. I just hope they never have to manually evac the gondolas it will make any monorail fiasco seem like a blessing in comparison.

 

[Rteetz]

They have the same backup system, the RCID FD. I just hope they never have to manually evac the gondolas it will make any monorail fiasco seem like a blessing in comparison.

No that is not what I was talking about. The Skyliner will have back up generators as well as the ability to manually pull the cabins into the station if I am not mistaken. It would take a lot for a manually RCFD evacuation to happen.

 

[monothingie]

No that is not what I was talking about. The Skyliner will have back up generators as well as the ability to manually pull the cabins into the station if I am not mistaken. It would take a lot for a manually RCFD evacuation to happen.

Not going into a back and forth with you, both systems have adequate backup systems in place or planned. However if all fails and it requires a manual evacuation the RCID FD is the final backup system. If it comes to this it will be a very bad day in the PR department.

 

[Rteetz]

Not going into a back and forth with you, both systems have adequate backup systems in place or planned. However if all fails and it requires a manual evacuation the RCID FD is the final backup system. If it comes to this it will be a very bad day in the PR department.

Sure it would be bad for any PR department. Anytime a transportation incident happens its a big deal. Gondola incidents are not that common though. We have gone over the what ifs numerous times in this thread about what could potentially happen and the unlikelihood of such.

 

[GeneralKnowledge]

There are posters on that board who, when honest speculation about WDW occurs, automatically assume the posters engaging in such speculation are lying, stupid, or some combination of both. I used to participate there, but when the ratio of those people versus people trying to have an honest discussion got to be too high, I came here. This thread is entertaining in an irreverent way, but also with facts and photos, I no longer think is possible on that board.

I listen to their podcast quite frequently and I’m always struck by how little they seem to know about the current rumor mill. Listening to them speculate about the gondola was pretty entertaining a couple months ago.

 

[GoofGoof]

Not going into a back and forth with you, both systems have adequate backup systems in place or planned. However if all fails and it requires a manual evacuation the RCID FD is the final backup system. If it comes to this it will be a very bad day in the PR department.

You think an emergency evac of a gondola cabin would be worse than the monorail or are you saying they are both very bad for PR? I know monorail evacs are pretty rare, but they have happened and the monorail seems to be pretty popular still. Doesn’t seem to be a major issue.

 

[monothingie]

You think an emergency evac of a gondola cabin would be worse than the monorail or are you saying they are both very bad for PR? I know monorail evacs are pretty rare, but they have happened and the monorail seems to be pretty popular still. Doesn’t seem to be a major issue.

A single train being evaced can be easily done because the incident area is in one specific location. RCID FD has specialized aparatus for this. Now imagine an entire gondola line from IG to the Caribbean is stuck, now you have a couple of miles of gondolas that need to be accessed and evaced one at a time. You tell me which one is worse.

 

[peter11435]

A single train being evaced can be easily done because the incident area is in one specific location. RCID FD has specialized aparatus for this. Now imagine an entire gondola line from IG to the Caribbean is stuck, now you have a couple of miles of gondolas that need to be accessed and evaced one at a time. You tell me which one is worse.

Except one is far less likely to happen.

 

[monothingie]

Except one is far less likely to happen.

Not saying it will happen here, but do a quick google search and see how often it does happen.

I hope that it never does, but if it does it will make any monorail incident minor in comparison to the coverage it would get.

 

[GoofGoof]

A single train being evaced can be easily done because the incident area is in one specific location. RCID FD has specialized aparatus for this. Now imagine an entire gondola line from IG to the Caribbean is stuck, now you have a couple of miles of gondolas that need to be accessed and evaced one at a time. You tell me which one is worse.

I get that it could be many gondola cars vs one or two trains, but each gondola holds <10 people so they should be much faster to evacuate than a full monorail train. Since the entire path of the gondolas is cleared at ground level except for the parts crossing water and roads I would think they should be able to roll out a truck with a scissor lift that can hold a full car full of passengers. It will take a little time to get the lift up and in place and then back down once full and the process would need to be repeated for each stuck car, but it’s much quicker and less frightening than the ski resorts where due to the location on the side of the mountain they sometimes need to have rescuers scale a tower, repel down the tow line to get to the car and then lower the trapped passengers to the ground. I would also assume they will have more than one rescue truck so that would also help shorten the time.

 

[flynnibus]

I hope that it never does, but if it does it will make any monorail incident minor in comparison to the coverage it would get.

Only in the minds of those yearning for Disney's choice to burn...

 

[cindy_k]

https://unofficialnetworks.com/2018/12/09/gondola-accident-on-brand-new-lift-in-austria-today/amp/

Yikes!

 

[peter11435]

Not saying it will happen here, but do a quick google search and see how often it does happen.

These systems exist all over the world in a wide variety of locations and countries with varing degrees of standards. Of course there will be many stories about them. A google search would also bring up several monorail incidents specific to WDW.

I hope that it never does, but if it does it will make any monorail incident minor in comparison to the coverage it would get.

I don’t believe this is true. The monorail is a Disney icon and more ingrained in people’s minds as a part of WDW than the gondola will ever be. Short of a major accident with casualties (which the monorail has already had) any story regarding the gondola will be a blip in the media that will be quickly forgotten.

 

[Bartattack]

https://unofficialnetworks.com/2018/12/09/gondola-accident-on-brand-new-lift-in-austria-today/amp/

Yikes!

Well if this happens at WDW, the upside is, they wouldn't have to drive as far with the scissor lift to evacuate all the gondolas...