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[marni1971]

You're completely wrong. WED Transportation Systems only built four WEDway systems. One for the 1964 World,s Fair, the second at Disneyland in 1967, the third at WDW in 1975 and the forth one was built for George Bush International Airport. After WED Transportation Systems built the WEDway people mover for George Bush International Airport in 1981, they got out of the transportation business. They sold all their patents for the WEDway system and monorail to Bombardier. TWDC got out of the transportation business because their products were terrible. The WEDway has always been very under-powered and a maintenance nightmare.

Bombardier built the other systems of which you speak and they are significantly better than the old WEDway design. I'm glad I had this opportunity to help you increase your knowledge.

They are WEDWay systems; I never said Disney built them. I’m well aware of the sale of the CTD; it’s common knowledge. By the way, only Orlando and Houston were officially called “WEDWay” by Disney. 1964 and 1967 systems were simply Peoplemovers, though the 64 version was not classed as one at that time.

I’d love to see your proof that the still running, 43 year old WEDway is a nightmare to maintain and is underpowered.

Is now a good time to ask how’s your no-fireworks policy going now you know Epcot will continue to have pyro?

 

[G00fyDad]

"people mover" = "Peoplemover"

Peoplemover -->

people mover -->

 

[Bender123]

Um, have you ever stayed at a monorail resort?

The funny thing is nobody seems to care that the monorail entering the Contemporary will be at virtually the same height as the highest point the gondola will reach. I swear people just like to complain...

If a person is that scared of heights, they can always take an Uber or get a Mini-Van.

 

[tissandtully]

Yes it exists. But no signage or guest facing collateral indicates that it is in option.

CMs have ALWAYS told us we have to take the boat to MK. It also says it in the FW brochure that is the only transportation option.

 

[peter11435]

CMs have ALWAYS told us we have to take the boat to MK. It also says it in the FW brochure that is the only transportation option.

Exactly.

 

[rle4lunch]

No doubt in my mind that these (if running smoothly and continually without stopping) will be LIGHT years faster than the damn bus system. The bus system is about as efficient as its gonna get. It's dumb luck if you can catch one at the right time without waiting 15-30 minutes..

Just what everyone in your vacation party wants to do:
"Synchronize your watches, everyone... The 2:15 bus to TTC is normally 3 minutes behind schedule due to lazy scooter folk onload/offload, and the driver stopping to relieve his/her bladder... If we can all meet at station 13 at 2:11, that will put us with a 7 minute buffer between the line being overcrowded to get the first bus... If we're there at 2:13, all bets are off. Prepare your mickey bubble makers by fashioning a 16 penny nail, reversed, at the tip of the left ear. This will act as your cattle prod to move the hordes out of the way to clear a path to the bus door."

 

[iowamomof4]

Do we know what the current status is of the cable between Epcot and CBR? Last I knew, the smaller haul ropes had been installed, but not the final cable. That was a couple days ago at least.

 

[Doug Means]

No doubt in my mind that these (if running smoothly and continually without stopping) will be LIGHT years faster than the damn bus system. The bus system is about as efficient as its gonna get. It's dumb luck if you can catch one at the right time without waiting 15-30 minutes..

Just what everyone in your vacation party wants to do:
"Synchronize your watches, everyone... The 2:15 bus to TTC is normally 3 minutes behind schedule due to lazy scooter folk onload/offload, and the driver stopping to relieve his/her bladder... If we can all meet at station 13 at 2:11, that will put us with a 7 minute buffer between the line being overcrowded to get the first bus... If we're there at 2:13, all bets are off. Prepare your mickey bubble makers by fashioning a 16 penny nail, reversed, at the tip of the left ear. This will act as your cattle prod to move the hordes out of the way to clear a path to the bus door."

i'm not disagreeing with you and like what you said.

But i don't mind the busses. its better than me than me navigating my car around all the time. plus the new app and signs that show when the next bus is arriving is nice. JS

 

[rle4lunch]

i'm not disagreeing with you and like what you said.

But i don't mind the busses. its better than me than me navigating my car around all the time. plus the new app and signs that show when the next bus is arriving is nice. JS

no, definitely not driving my car around whilst staying on property. that's just nuts.
the signs help. the crowds don't.

 

[Phil12]

They are WEDWay systems; I never said Disney built them. I’m well aware of the sale of the CTD; it’s common knowledge. By the way, only Orlando and Houston were officially called “WEDWay” by Disney. 1964 and 1967 systems were simply Peoplemovers, though the 64 version was not classed as one at that time.

I’d love to see your proof that the still running, 43 year old WEDway is a nightmare to maintain and is underpowered.

Is now a good time to ask how’s your no-fireworks policy going now you know Epcot will continue to have pyro?

I now understand why you're using the WEDway term to describe portions of the U.S. Capitol subway system. It seems that a former Disney employee that went to work for Bombardier during the buyout still calls the system WEDway. However, as you correctly point out, only the Orlando and Houston versions were named WEDway. In reality the system under the U.S. Capitol is in fact Bombardier regardless of what some former Disney employe may call it. And, of course, Disney sold all of its patents for both the WEDway and the monorail to Bombardier so they no longer own the technology.

The main problem with the WEDway system is that it was based upon linear induction motors (LIM). While LIM is great for certain applications, it is not a good system for a slow people moving system. The system was designed back in the 1960's when nuclear power plants were coming online in rapid succession. The promise of cheap and never ending electrical power was thought to be imminent. The Disney designers of the WEDway didn't care that their system was grossly inefficient and used much more power than a conventional rotary electric motor. It is under powered in the sense that a conventional rotary motor could supply much more power for far less cost.

Disneyland closed their system in 1995 citing expensive costs as the reason for the closure. The airport in Houston has publicly stated that the cost of maintaining and operating their system is not a viable option. They currently have new systems under study.

As for pyrotechnics at WDW, they're doing a great job in trying to eliminate some of the environmental concerns. I've heard that they are working with fireworks companies to change the chemical formulations to reduce the amount of perchlorates. It's certainly in their best interests to reduce the amount of smoke and particulate contaminates from their shows. I don't think a fireworks ban is a feasible expectation. However, reducing both air and water pollution is a realistic goal that will help insure that fireworks can continue at WDW for many years to come. Thanks for asking!

 

[marni1971]

I now understand why you're using the WEDway term to describe portions of the U.S. Capitol subway system. It seems that a former Disney employee that went to work for Bombardier during the buyout still calls the system WEDway. However, as you correctly point out, only the Orlando and Houston versions were named WEDway. In reality the system under the U.S. Capitol is in fact Bombardier regardless of what some former Disney employe may call it. And, of course, Disney sold all of its patents for both the WEDway and the monorail to Bombardier so they no longer own the technology.

The main problem with the WEDway system is that it was based upon linear induction motors (LIM). While LIM is great for certain applications, it is not a good system for a slow people moving system. The system was designed back in the 1960's when nuclear power plants were coming online in rapid succession. The promise of cheap and never ending electrical power was thought to be imminent. The Disney designers of the WEDway didn't care that their system was grossly inefficient and used much more power than a conventional rotary electric motor. It is under powered in the sense that a conventional rotary motor could supply much more power for far less cost.

Disneyland closed their system in 1995 citing expensive costs as the reason for the closure. The airport in Houston has publicly stated that the cost of maintaining and operating their system is not a viable option. They currently have new systems under study.

As for pyrotechnics at WDW, they're doing a great job in trying to eliminate some of the environmental concerns. I've heard that they are working with fireworks companies to change the chemical formulations to reduce the amount of perchlorates. It's certainly in their best interests to reduce the amount of smoke and particulate contaminates from their shows. I don't think a fireworks ban is a feasible expectation. However, reducing both air and water pollution is a realistic goal that will help insure that fireworks can continue at WDW for many years to come. Thanks for asking!

That’s a lot of typing. Thanks for your... input.

 

[twilight mitsuk]

Hence why Otis switched from lim to cable on their apms

 

[raymusiccity]

Yes @Rteetz has said there was a problem with the cabin production.

Fake news! They're actually having trouble with the lyrics to the 'Skyliner Theme Song'

 

[larryz]

Fake news! They're actually having trouble with the lyrics to the 'Skyliner Theme Song'

Here's the first draft...
(you know the tune... or just ask the Colonel to lead you)

Riding the skies in the Skyliner
Wearing some rouge and some eyeliner.
North to South, or even East to West,
Riding Disney's Skyliner is best...
Riding Disney's Skyliner is BEST!

 

[DisneyNeighbor]

Reliable sources have said that Disney's goal is no bus service, whether they follow through with this or not, it's still their intention. As other have pointed out, there is no basis for an ADA lawsuit. As for closures, they aren't going to have full compliment of buses and drivers just waiting for this to happen. For short shut downs they will probably just wait it out. For longer they will probably redirect buses from other routes.

I would guess the main reason they would close will be due to weather. Since most issues with weather outside of a Hurricane are around the middle of the day. Wouldn't that be the time of day when you should expect the least amount of riders?

 

[raymusiccity]

Here's the first draft...
(you know the tune... or just ask the Colonel to lead you)

Riding the skies in the Skyliner
Wearing some rouge and some eyeliner.
North to South, or even East to West,
Riding Disney's Skyliner is best...
Riding Disney's Skyliner is BEST!

Nice first draft........but, don't quit your day job!

 

[MisterPenguin]

From Passport to the Park. He deserves a thumbs up.

 

[OG Runner]

Here's the first draft...
(you know the tune... or just ask the Colonel to lead you)

Riding the skies in the Skyliner
Wearing some rouge and some eyeliner.
North to South, or even East to West,
Riding Disney's Skyliner is best...
Riding Disney's Skyliner is BEST!

Of course it will be to the tune of Its a Small World, so you will never get it out of your head.

 

[OG Runner]

From Passport to the Park. He deserves a thumbs up.

I agree. I have watched a number of their updates. They are always good reports.

 

[Bender123]

That’s a lot of typing. Thanks for your... input.

Pure digital side eye...I like this new saucy Martin.