devoy1701
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This kind of thinking is why WED Enterprises was created in the first place.
It's sort of a shame we're just trying to solve the "here and now" problems.
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This kind of thinking is why WED Enterprises was created in the first place.
It's sort of a shame we're just trying to solve the "here and now" problems.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
If the backup generators are similar to the ones used for office buildings and hospitals they should be instantaneous. As soon as the power loss occurs the generator kicks on.
I do wonder if there is more of a chance of a short delay due to guest loading issues. I know they are building the second load turn for ECVs and people who need more time, but what happens if I just take my time and don’t load completely while the cars are in the station. Will they stop the whole system each time that happens? I’m thinking of a standard ski lift at a bunny slope that has to stop every time someone falls getting off. I know the system is supposed to allow plenty of time for loading and unloading but sometimes tourists just aren’t paying attention. Those small minute or 2 stops could be more of an issue than power loss.
cindy_k
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But think of how amazingly cool it would be. More awesome than HP Land.
There's a thread for smelly monorails, take your debates about the monorail there, please. This thread is about dying on the gondolas.
What is with the Smell of the Monorails?
What is with the Smell of the Monorails?
GoofGoof
Premium Member
True but Walt’s goal at the time was to sell these transportation options outside of his theme park. His intent was not solely to enhance the experience of his theme park customers. In today’s world Disney is just looking to solve logistical and transportation problems for guest satisfaction. They have no skin in the game for being innovative with transportation other than wowing their guests.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
The pods on a dedicated track, or fully autonomous vehicles? The pods would be cool, especially on routes where busses today are the only thing practical like monorail resorts to AK. Too far to build a monorail and too long for gondolas. Adding a lane to existing roads with an extra curb seems exponentially cheaper than light rail tracks or monorail footers.
The fully autonomous cars would be a train wreck right now. People drive terrible around WDW property. Between the local drivers, tour buses and the tourists themselves with no clue where they are going it’s a bad accident waiting to happen.
Bender123
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When you see how slowly they move at load, you wont be asking that question...if you take that long, to walk into a room, you deserve to have the door close on you. They move extremely slowly at the stations...
Ponderer
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In a way, I’m really happy that Disney didn’t follow that path. I don’t want Disney to be a General Electric kind of conglomerate. It’s wonderful when they can inspire new thinking on a larger scale - but it’s a rare thing these days when a company stays mostly in its lane, and tries to execute its core competency better than anyone else.
(Let’s also remember that while Walt was a visionary, his brother was always digging him out of financial holes. Walt was a maestro at coming up with things that filled you with awe and wonder and were largely infeasible in any substantial real-world scenario. He wasn’t the kind of visionary like Edison or Jobs, where they pursued ridiculous ideas whose real-world potential soon became obvious and spawned thousands of companies. Walt was a showman and a dreamer. The things he came up with only worked on the scale on which he could directly control them.)
Incomudro
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Imagine stepping into a gondola that was recently exited by the great unwashed?
There's an app for that...Imagine stepping into a gondola that was recently exited by the great unwashed?
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Haha. Fair point.FTFY.
However, I do think the gondolas will be an enhancement for guests. They could have just continued to run buses. People prefer non-bus transport options.An extended downtime would likely be caused not by a power failure, but by a safety sensor being tripped. I think that would most likely be caused by a cable moving outside of the allowable tolerance along it's intended path. Then everything needs to be checked before the system is restarted.
It appears to be a rare occurrence, but it did happen on the Emirates Airline gondola in London a few years ago, according to news stories. I think the shutdown was less than an hour, but it was long enough to begin evacuation of passengers.
trainplane3
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Interesting. That's something I completely forgot about being a possibility. I guess the good thing about the Skyliner is how it's over flat ground and relatively low to it. Only the short stretch over Hourglass lake and the really short stretch over the water to IG are the only "big" obstacles.
How do they check that? Climbing each tower or is a simple drive along the route and radioing back to dispatch good enough?
Official word from Disney, no A/C:
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/tra...y-skyliner-update-gondola-20181120-story.html
A Walt Disney World spokeswoman confirmed Tuesday that the gondolas would not have AC. The cabins were “specifically tailored to provide a comfortable ride for our guests in the Florida climate,” she said. The units will use cross-ventilation for sufficient air flow and reflective windows to prevent direct sunlight, she said.
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/tra...y-skyliner-update-gondola-20181120-story.html
A Walt Disney World spokeswoman confirmed Tuesday that the gondolas would not have AC. The cabins were “specifically tailored to provide a comfortable ride for our guests in the Florida climate,” she said. The units will use cross-ventilation for sufficient air flow and reflective windows to prevent direct sunlight, she said.
rocketraccoon
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Dang, pretty bold to just take responsibility for the future deaths of thousands like that.
I don't know the details. I just know that there are sensors that stop the cable if it goes out of tolerance, and that Emirates Airline officials told the news media that the shutdown was caused by a safety sensor. LiftBlog could probably shed more light on it.
PizzaPlanet
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Oh boy, I really didn't see this one coming.
HiJe
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peter11435
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Or it won’t be a problem at all