JoeCamel
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Thanks great info
Progress.City
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Any guestimate on what the proposed Disney system would cost?
Going over the resort buildings is probably not ideal, but I don't see why it wouldn't happen. The CBR buildings are only 2 stories tall so height isn't an issue, and the gondolas are silent except when passing over the towers so noise should be an issue.
csmat99
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Do you do any research before even posting? These systems are all over the world and some in very bad weather areas like the Caribbean or in mountain ranges in europe. We have people called engineers their job is to make sure the stuff they build doesn't fall over even if we had 100 mph winds. The cars of course can handle very high winds usually up to 50-60 mph hour but doesn't matter because all the cars will be stored and pulled off the line in event of hurricane.
Peter,
Thanks for the great info.
Are you aware of any lift systems (like the 3 wire systems) that use one of the stationary wires as power for the gondola cars?
Or are there other means of providing A/C?
csmat99
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I just hope they won't build it near the bridge don't want to be on one when the bats take off at night.Hahaaa...!
Yea, even though I spent a massive amount of my '80-'84 serious party years down there, I honestly can't remember the last time I was on 6th St....
OK, so probably because I was too wasted to remember the last time I was on 6th St....!!!
Yes, pedestrians, bikes, rickshaws, cars, busses, delivery/commercial trucks, light rail, etc., all make so much sense on the same street level.
Last I heard, there were at least a few tangles in Houston every day between light rail and motor vehicles.
What about the the proposal from a local architect that they bury about 3 Miles of midtown I-35 to make the transition from west-ish to East Austin less..."harsh", I believe was the word used.
And, can you just imagine the cost of trying to build some sort of subway system around here, with all the limestone to get through, along with the aquifers....?! Ain't gonna' happen.
Of all modes of transportation, elevated, of some sort, seems to make the most sense, especially in the downtown area.
But, yep, that will probably never happen in the relatively near future either.
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Every detachable lift has a switch that allows carriers to be moved off of the main line onto a maintenance rail. On chairlifts, this is a manual process, but on larger gondolas it happens automatically. This maintenance rail sometimes ascends or descends to another level, with a series of tires or a chain to move the carrier up the hill. In lifts where two separate haul loops meet in the middle, there is usually the capability to have vehicles continue through between loops, or turn back if one section isn't operating. The Doppelmayr Combined Lift Brochure shows how this functionality can be used to separate gondolas from chairs, but it works in many situations. This functionality is easily modified to create a system where cabins move between ropes. It might not currently exist, but it's not revolutionary and could be accomplished with existing designs.
If a 10 passenger capacity is proposed, that basically confirms that this will be a monocable system.
The proposed building at CBR South is large enough to house the maintenance facility.
The Cabriolet Gondola at Mont Tremblant goes over the Marriott there, which is three stories tall. The loudest noise is a small rumble when the grips pass over the sheaves on the towers, but you don't notice it inside the building. Those gondolas are also open-air.
https://www.google.com/maps/@46.210...zP2Rf5XYkJIs4uD7niRg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
donaldtoo
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I just hope they won't build it near the bridge don't want to be on one when the bats take off at night.
They would just do like Disney, and there would be an upcharge for evening gondola bat viewing rides.
Lift Blog
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For anyone curious, there are 111 gondolas currently operating in North America in a variety of places - mostly at ski resorts but also zoos, theme parks, adventure parks and cities.
Sure, it's possible but I can't see cabins splitting onto multiple lines being very feasible. The merging back together is even tougher. Especially when high capacity requirements mandate very tight spacing. The switches you speak of are normally only used when parking or launching cabins.
Breckenridge has a chairlift that splits every other chair to a second loading area and from what I hear it is interesting to maintain and has not been tried again.
Sure, it's possible but I can't see cabins splitting onto multiple lines being very feasible. The merging back together is even tougher. Especially when high capacity requirements mandate very tight spacing. The switches you speak of are normally only used when parking or launching cabins.
Breckenridge has a chairlift that splits every other chair to a second loading area and from what I hear it is interesting to maintain and has not been tried again.
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I doubt it would happen, I just don't want people to think that things are impossible. We're seeing a growing trend of these systems being proposed for urban transport, and a system of allowing carriers to switch lines in real time would be a selling point for a large urban system. A manufacturer could use this system as a technology demonstrator, to show how flexible things are if nothing else.
Progress.City
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Stirs up too many emotions, but I know...
Lift Blog
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Doppelmayr recently completed a multi-section gondola at Wynn Palace in Macau with air conditioning. The unit is the ceiling and powered by a battery in the floor that charges anytime a cabin is in a station. It adds significant weight and those 8-passenger cabins can only accomodate 6 people as a result.
https://liftblog.com/2016/08/23/in-pictures-crazy-gondola-opens-at-wynn-palace-cotai/
https://liftblog.com/2016/08/23/in-pictures-crazy-gondola-opens-at-wynn-palace-cotai/
Kamikaze
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Urban transport is going to be fixed point to fixed point. No track switches, etc. Can you imagine trying to explain a switching system to someone who has never been on it before? This system is going to be separate lines with transfers. Just drop the rest - there is no reason to discuss things that are not going to happen. (Same as 'they should do monorail instead')
I was going to mention this, and I agree about the merging back in thing. With these systems, when they come off the line they don't stop, and they merge back in where they came from.
The chair at Breckenridge is pretty interesting, and I've ridden it a few times but its just a kiddie chair so it's not very appealing to me to ride on it other than how unique the loading station is. I didn't ride it when I was there earlier this winter. A lot of the newer 6 person chairs now have conveyor systems to help people load faster, which I assume is a lot cheaper and possibly just as efficient (though my mom absolutely hates them). Many other 6 person chair, like ones at Heavenly, Northstar and a few others at Breck don't have any weird loading apparatuses at all.
A system where a cabin could come off and people would be able to load at their leisure just ins't very feasible. But actually now that I think about it, while I'm not sure its ever been done, they could potentially include a parallel conveyor to help with loading similar to how they do on some attractions like Haunted Mansion.