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[hosekiller]

Fire company can just hit the gondolas with a spray of high-pressure water. That'll cool 'em off.

Naw man, we are talking about Florida. It’s so warm that water from a fire engine probably hovers just short of its boiling point. In order to get cooling water they’d have to dump the tank and refill with fresh water, and water isn’t free!

 

[Goofyernmost]

Naw man, we are talking about Florida. It’s so warm that water from a fire engine probably hovers just short of its boiling point. In order to get cooling water they’d have to dump the tank and refill with fresh water, and water isn’t free!

Oh, I would think that they have enough retention ponds, lakes and canals on property to cover the need

 

[hosekiller]

Oh, I would think that they have enough retention ponds, lakes and canals on property to cover the need

But that water would be in direct sunlight, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was already boiling!

I’m not even going to get into how bad of an idea it would be to suck those poor fish up into a fire engine (wear and tear on the equipment, animal rights, etc.), but boiled fish nuggets would ensure people don’t starve to death while waiting for evacuation. Then again, smacking people in the face with brain eating amoebas probably isn’t the best plan either.

Oh the humanity!

 

[Nubs70]

Wow, I forgot about brain eating amoebas. I don't think anywhere in these 20,000 posts anyone thought about the brain-eating amoebas and I didn't even think about when your sky oven gets shot out of the sky by lighting, you locked in drowning in a lagoon with gators circling, in the end, the biggest problem may be the amoebas. Better yet if the safety people turn into your most feared enemies trying to keep you from dying by spraying you with brain-eating creatures.

I think I can make a movie about this. Sharknado, I got something better.

But if gondolas are hosed down with lagoon water to cool off guests, in the event of a system failure, brain eating amoebas could be contracted by displaying of water through the passive ventilation system.

 

[Goofyernmost]

But that water would be in direct sunlight, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was already boiling!

I’m not even going to get into how bad of an idea it would be to suck those poor fish up into a fire engine (wear and tear on the equipment, animal rights, etc.), but boiled fish nuggets would ensure people don’t starve to death while waiting for evacuation. Then again, smacking people in the face with brain eating amoebas probably isn’t the best plan either.

Oh the humanity!

So see, the nourishment factor alone makes the system worthwhile. I don't think the loss of the fish would be a problem because since the water is already boiling the chance of their survival is limited. So really it is a win, win! Gondola cooling and cleaning out decaying fish all in one operation. Talk about multi-tasking. A simple mesh screen will keep the damaging parts of the fish body from damaging the equipment. Brain eating amoebas would be the least of their problems. I just don't see a downside.

 

[marni1971]

2-3 hours in the flying ovens will be a plussed experience for sure. Passive ventilation while not moving will be hard to pull off..

That will be an issue.

 

[toolsnspools]

That will be an issue.

Yes and no. Vents at the bottom and top will create a chimney effect, and vent the cabins (a little), even when they're not moving. It's not going to be comfortable, but should remain tolerable, even when stopped.

 

[Missing20K]

Maybe because most people realize this was a chair lift and NOT what is coming to Disney world.

Logic hasn't stopped the speculations on this thread yet, I figured "if ya can't fight them, join them"

For a thread facetiously discussing how people will bake to a crisp in the cabin before falling into the gator infested waters below to be ate while golden brown and delicious, I thought an actual ski lift evacuation, and how it was done, regardless them being not the exact same circumstances, might be slightly more interesting.

 

[joelkfla]

That will be an issue.

Seriously, they could be equipped with small fans powered by ordinary alkaline batteries. I keep seeing Energizer packages that say "Holds power for 10 years." The fan would be activated by an "Emergency use only" switch, which could also turn on an LED to alert cm's at the unload when someone had activated it, so that that they could be banned for life if activated in a non-emergency.

 

[DisAl]

Logic hasn't stopped the speculations on this thread yet, I figured "if ya can't fight them, join them"

For a thread facetiously discussing how people will bake to a crisp in the cabin before falling into the gator infested waters below to be ate while golden brown and delicious, I thought an actual ski lift evacuation, and how it was done, regardless them being not the exact same circumstances, might be slightly more interesting.

LOGIC??? We don't need no stinkin' logic! Logic would destroy this whole thread!

 

[networkpro]

But that water would be in direct sunlight, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was already boiling!

I’m not even going to get into how bad of an idea it would be to suck those poor fish up into a fire engine (wear and tear on the equipment, animal rights, etc.), but boiled fish nuggets would ensure people don’t starve to death while waiting for evacuation. Then again, smacking people in the face with brain eating amoebas probably isn’t the best plan either.

Oh the humanity!

Where do you think the sustainable fish comes from ? We call this expanding the fish production by increasing the food stocks.

 

[larryz]

2-3 hours in the flying ovens will be a plussed experience for sure. Passive ventilation while not moving will be hard to pull off.

I do like the water cannon idea to keep the gondolas cool while waiting for help. Excellent thinking out of the box going on with that.

As long as the water can drain out as fast as it sprays in. Otherwise, you'll have people drowning in elevated gondola cabins.

 

[jt04]

As long as the water can drain out as fast as it sprays in. Otherwise, you'll have people drowning in elevated gondola cabins.

Maybe they can install emergency scuba tanks.

 

[hosekiller]

So see, the nourishment factor alone makes the system worthwhile. I don't think the loss of the fish would be a problem because since the water is already boiling the chance of their survival is limited. So really it is a win, win! Gondola cooling and cleaning out decaying fish all in one operation. Talk about multi-tasking. A simple mesh screen will keep the damaging parts of the fish body from damaging the equipment. Brain eating amoebas would be the least of their problems. I just don't see a downside.

Yeah, I guess Disney really has thought this through! I don’t know about anybody else, but all my fears have been put to rest

 

[Smooth]

How about promoting the gondolas as "Your Magical Sauna in the Sky"!

 

[MrHappy]

But that water would be in direct sunlight, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was already boiling!

I’m not even going to get into how bad of an idea it would be to suck those poor fish up into a fire engine (wear and tear on the equipment, animal rights, etc.), but boiled fish nuggets would ensure people don’t starve to death while waiting for evacuation. Then again, smacking people in the face with brain eating amoebas probably isn’t the best plan either.

Oh the humidity!

FTFY

 

[Phil12]

Yes and no. Vents at the bottom and top will create a chimney effect, and vent the cabins (a little), even when they're not moving. It's not going to be comfortable, but should remain tolerable, even when stopped.

It sounds very much like a convection oven.

 

[Phil12]

Has anyone noticed that the Doppelmayr/Garaventa Group has recently merged with the Soylent Green Company?

 

[GoofGoof]

One thing to keep in mind is a full evacuation of a line will be extremely rare. There are backup systems in place to get the cars back to the stations in the event of a loss of power. About 500 pages ago there was talk of Disney targeting a time of 12-15 minutes to clear the lines if they needed to shut down. I don’t think the plan is to leave guests for hours in a stationary cabin on a regular basis. Pulling people out of cars in mid air with rescue vehicles will not be a regular occurrence (or these things won’t be around long).

In the event referenced a few pages back an entire ski lift line was evacuated from the side of a snow covered mountain in 2.5 hours. I can’t believe they couldn’t/wouldn’t be able to do that work in a fraction of that time with trucks instead of harnesses on a flat, non-snow covered surface. I’m sure Disney and Reedy Creek FD are at least as prepared and likely more prepared than a team at a ski resort. Will the cabins be hot and uncomfortable without the ventilation from movement? I’m sure, but there’s a difference between uncomfortable and life threatening. I know the majority of our posts are just in jest on the issue, but do you really think Disney’s plan would be to build something unsafe or possibly life threatening with no plan or risk management? Disney probably gets sued as much or more than any other company, they know how to handle risk management.

 

[GeneralKnowledge]

One thing to keep in mind is a full evacuation of a line will be extremely rare. There are backup systems in place to get the cars back to the stations in the event of a loss of power. About 500 pages ago there was talk of Disney targeting a time of 12-15 minutes to clear the lines if they needed to shut down. I don’t think the plan is to leave guests for hours in a stationary cabin on a regular basis. Pulling people out of cars in mid air with rescue vehicles will not be a regular occurrence (or these things won’t be around long).

In the event referenced a few pages back an entire ski lift line was evacuated from the side of a snow covered mountain in 2.5 hours. I can’t believe they couldn’t/wouldn’t be able to do that work in a fraction of that time with trucks instead of harnesses on a flat, non-snow covered surface. I’m sure Disney and Reedy Creek FD are at least as prepared and likely more prepared than a team at a ski resort. Will the cabins be hot and uncomfortable without the ventilation from movement? I’m sure, but there’s a difference between uncomfortable and life threatening. I know the majority of our posts are just in jest on the issue, but do you really think Disney’s plan would be to build something unsafe or possibly life threatening with no plan or risk management? Disney probably gets sued as much or more than any other company, they know how to handle risk management.

Your logic and reason has no place in this thread! (BE GONE! DISAPPEAR, DISAPPEAR! Back back over the falls...)