News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner -

[devoy1701]

I really think people are worrying too much about the lack of air con on these things. If you are not able to tolerate a few minute ride without A/C you really should consider vacationing somewhere else between the months of May and October.

You're not wrong. TBH one of the main reasons we finally moved out of Central FL because we couldn't take the humidity.

However, I really don't think it's going to be that much of an issue. What are these thing, 40 feet off the ground and probably moving at 20 mph or so? It really shouldn't be more uncomfortable than doing any other activity outside in the Florida heat. People don't stop riding the parking lot trams and boat transportation in the summer.

 

[flynnibus]

In a way, I’m really happy that Disney didn’t follow that path. I don’t want Disney to be a General Electric kind of conglomerate

You're kinda too late. That ship sailed with Eisner in the 80s.

 

[note2001]

Why do people insist on bringing up the whole AC thing over and over and over?
If you don't like it, don't do it.
I can't imagine anyone who can't stand hot dogs standing in like for Casey's complaining all the while about how hot dogs are disgusting and then proceeding to eat one.

 

[GoofGoof]

Sorry, but I haven't read the almost 700 pages here, but did they say anywhere there would be any audio in the gondolas? music or the audio of the now arriving where ever speech..it would almost be nice to have an app that might be able to work with the gps on the phone...

Nothing official yet. There is this post from way back that the cabins should have WiFi:

From my update on Lift Blog:

Again, my sincere thanks to @danlb_2000 and others who pieced this news together in February.

 

[flynnibus]

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Just sayin’

And it won't make a ounce of difference to the first poster.

 

[danlb_2000]

Nothing official yet. There is this post from way back that the cabins should have WiFi:

They could probably provide wifi with antennas on the towers. Any wifi in the cars would end up having to be just a repeater anyway since there would be no other way to get the data signal back out of the car.

 

[larryz]

Sorry, but I haven't read the almost 700 pages here, but did they say anywhere there would be any audio in the gondolas? music or the audio of the now arriving where ever speech..it would almost be nice to have an app that might be able to work with the gps on the phone...

No posts without reading the whole thread! Call my guards! Off with his head!

 

[nickys]

Official word from Disney, no A/C:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/tra...y-skyliner-update-gondola-20181120-story.html

A Walt Disney World spokeswoman confirmed Tuesday that the gondolas would not have AC. The cabins were “specifically tailored to provide a comfortable ride for our guests in the Florida climate,” she said. The units will use cross-ventilation for sufficient air flow and reflective windows to prevent direct sunlight, she said.

Imagine that!

Only about a million posts after @marni1971 told us, we have it settled.

Oh wait, I see the debate has started again ..l

 

[note2001]

So here's what's going to happen. At the locations serviced by the gondolas to the parks, Disney will reduce the number of buses running that route. To be sure, they will still keep one or two on, but the wait for a bus will go up.

On those 95-100 degree days people will have to choose: Wait 40 minutes or more out in the miserable humidity for an air conditioned bus (probably more as it will have a few ecvs on it to be loaded/unloaded) or hop right on in a gondola, get some shade, a breeze...

They want faster service with climate control? They can call an Uber, or better for Disney's pocket, a minnievan.

Now if I could only overcome that height thing.

 

[kurtk]

Official word from Disney, no A/C:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/tra...y-skyliner-update-gondola-20181120-story.html

A Walt Disney World spokeswoman confirmed Tuesday that the gondolas would not have AC. The cabins were “specifically tailored to provide a comfortable ride for our guests in the Florida climate,” she said. The units will use cross-ventilation for sufficient air flow and reflective windows to prevent direct sunlight, she said.

So Disney is saying there is still a chance it will have a/c.

 

[Ponderer]

You're kinda too late. That ship sailed with Eisner in the 80s.

I disagree. They’re still centrally focused on stuff that builds value around their core entertainment assets. I know what kind of company Disney is, I know what they produce. I can’t say that about Comcast.

 

[peter11435]

So here's what's going to happen. At the locations serviced by the gondolas to the parks, Disney will reduce the number of buses running that route. To be sure, they will still keep one or two on, but the wait for a bus will go up.

On those 95-100 degree days people will have to choose: Wait 40 minutes or more out in the miserable humidity for an air conditioned bus (probably more as it will have a few ecvs on it to be loaded/unloaded) or hop right on in a gondola, get some shade, a breeze...

They want faster service with climate control? They can call an Uber, or better for Disney's pocket, a minnievan.

Now if I could only overcome that height thing.

The plan is still that there will be no bus service on routes serviced by the gondola.

 

[Ponderer]

Well, when you make enough profit.. you can afford some misses. And that's

Then you'd likely have been kicked out of the group that came up with WDW and saw it through it's first 20 years. The bold and innovative was in the freaking DNA of the property... and why the EPCOT codes were so much more than just what was required by convention at the time. The property was developed with the idea of being a showcase for how things COULD and SHOULD be done - not just 'get by'. And is part of the reason Disney wasn't just run of the mill.

That’s not my point. Being bold for bold’s sake is an empty exercise. Being bold in service of a mission or a specific goal, where the boldness enhances everything is great. Look, if automated pods or whatever could do the job better than another form of transport, great, shoot the moon. But when you have a better, more reliable, more efficient system that checks all the boxes, that’s the intelligent choice.

And incidentally, when I was a kid and went to Disney, there was NOTHING more bold and dazzling than the Skyway. Eisner’s Disney was terrified of them and ripped them down. This management is building an actual public transportation system with them. If you want to talk bold, that’s bold.

 

[flynnibus]

That’s not my point. Being bold for bold’s sake is an empty exercise. Being bold in service of a mission or a specific goal, where the boldness enhances everything is great. Look, if automated pods or whatever could do the job better than another form of transport, great, shoot the moon. But when you have a better, more reliable, more efficient system that checks all the boxes, that’s the intelligent choice.

I think you have forgotten that Disney is A SHOW - not just functional living.

 

[Goofyernmost]

We are talking about a vacation to WDW so comparing this to what people in other countries do to survive is really apples to oranges. There’s also a big difference between a 5 minute gondola ride and a hotel room overnight or an hour or 2 in a restaurant. AC is most definitely needed in FL most of the year for comfort. You could absolutely survive without it, but this isn’t a life or death situation it’s about enjoying your vacation and feeling comfortable. I don’t think it will likely be too uncomfortable on the gondolas for 5 minutes without AC, but a lot of guests will need to experience that for themselves to believe it since they have experienced the buses and their cold blasted AC. I don’t hear a whole lot of complaints about the boats without AC. People have tried them and realized the motion keeps them cool enough for a short trip.

No I'm talking about entitlement right here in the good old US. I only put in the other countries to point out just how First World Entitled we all are. It just seems like all we do is complain about things that people from other places would give their right arm to have. That's all.

 

[Ponderer]

I think you have forgotten that Disney is A SHOW - not just functional living.

Well, gliding over the parks in an off-the-shelf gondola rig was good enough for Walt himself, since that’s *exactly* what he did with the first Skyway. The feeling of soaring is more than enough show. Not everything needs to be gilded.

 

[flynnibus]

Well, gliding over the parks in an off-the-shelf gondola rig was good enough for Walt himself, since that’s *exactly* what he did with the first Skyway. The feeling of soaring is more than enough show. Not everything needs to be gilded.

You forget that when Walt did the skyway in Disneyland... it was the first such installation in the United States. And this was the era of limited international travel, and TV was brand new. Most people had no exposure to this new concept.

That's the problem when people try to blindly compare actions from 60+ years ago to now - they have no context.

 

[Ponderer]

You forget that when Walt did the skyway in Disneyland... it was the first such installation in the United States. And this was the era of limited international travel, and TV was brand new. Most people had no exposure to this new concept.

That's the problem when people try to blindly compare actions from 60+ years ago to now - they have no context.

And some people are so determined to put a coat of spray paint on everything that they miss the actual magic happening.

 

[SLUSHIE]

That's the problem when people try to blindly compare actions from 60+ years ago to now - they have no context.

Then why do we compare it to the monorail, something that was built almost 50 years ago, or what someone that died over 50 years ago hypothetically would have done?

Cant we just he happy that Disney is trying something 'new' and not just ordering more busses (which were invented in the 1800's).

 

[EvilChameleon]

Have the powers that be here thought about starting a new thread for this discussion, and including in the OP all the pertinent information, so nobody can complain about having to read through 700 pages?