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lazyboy97o

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I saw a video on the Central shops and it is pretty amazing what their able to do. I’m thinking a lot of the new animatronics you see actually come from them.
Central Shops is part of Walt Disney World, not Walt Disney Imagineering. New stuff and existing stuff are handled by different teams.
 

eddie104

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Central Shops is part of Walt Disney World, not Walt Disney Imagineering. New stuff and existing stuff are handled by different teams.
I know that but that doesn't mean they can't be commissioned to build something by them especially if they have the resources. For a company like Disney building in house might be more beneficial to help control the quality and also might be cheaper. I heard that Central shops built all of DLP Potc animatronics back in the 90s which was surprising to hear but makes sense from a standpoint of Disney caring about how their attractions turn out.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
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This may have been answered already, but has there been any more news lately on whether bag check at the EPCOT Intl. Gateway will be moved outside the EPCOT gondola station, or will it be inside the gondola station, meaning people exiting the gondolas would have to have their bags checked there?
AFAIK, no. What was thought to have happen looks like it might not happen but maybe still will.
IG bag check will stay where it currently is.
 

nace888

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No reason to when it's an off the shelf system from an international manufacturer.

They don't build their buses or monorails in house, either, or even coasters.
Which is interesting when you think about it, since the first train and the first monorails were all built in house.
 

Goofyernmost

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Which is interesting when you think about it, since the first train and the first monorails were all built in house.
Where else were they going to have it done. They started this specialty for a theme park. There were no businesses around that did that kind of work. Even then though they had to use outside manufacturing to do the external plastics. I'm sure Disney didn't have a plastic molding machine. And also the usage of the words, made our own, basically meant they designed and engineered those items they still had to have outsiders machine the parts and put them together.
 

GlacierGlacier

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How many of Disney's ride vehicles are actually built by Disney anymore?
Original manufacturing in some cases is done by third-parties, alongside development and testing of ride systems.

If you want specific examples, Oceaneering manufactured/manufactures many of the LPS rides (rat, MMRR, etc.), Vekoma manufactures coasters and their trains.

However, Disney does the majority of repair for these. The Everest trains, originally built by Vekoma, can be built from scratch by Central Shops. When I was there this time about a year ago, they were preparing for a rebuild of an Everest train, while finishing up a brand new Barnstormer train.
There is a big difference between manufacturing from scratch and maintaining something.
Not when it comes to Disney's maintenance. The procedure (which I've seen in person) is to strip everything down to individual nuts and bolts, re-machine anything (as in every part) showing enough wear, reassemble, and then test before returning to circulation. Some parts may be bought from vendors, as specialized stuff is a bit more difficult to manage. But even the Kilamanjaro trucks are (for the most part) manufactured in the Central Shops by Disney. The scale at which they do repairs as well as the infrastructure they have for more fabrication is part of what makes them unique in the engineering part of the industry.
I thought Disney had pretty much stopped making their own animatronics ?
Disney is, again, unique in this aspect. While they do buy a quantity from outside companies like Garner Holt, they still do some of their own manufacturing and design of animatronics. A sizable portion of Central Shops is still dedicated to the AA department (And they have a kick- sign).
Central shops is often called on to fabricate for new builds.
To corroborate, a sizable quantity of foliage/props/decor for pandora was fabricated in Central Shops.
We can debate what Central Shops is an isn't capable of, but I highly doubt they would start mass producing gondola cars.
They likely won't produce the original batch. However, they're completely able (and likely going to) repair and rebuild gondolas during their operation.

I didn't mean to have most of these quotes target you, @danlb_2000. You do some great work on this forum and for this community. But you underestimate the power of Central Shops :p
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
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Original manufacturing in some cases is done by third-parties, alongside development and testing of ride systems.

If you want specific examples, Oceaneering manufactured/manufactures many of the LPS rides (rat, MMRR, etc.), Vekoma manufactures coasters and their trains.

However, Disney does the majority of repair for these. The Everest trains, originally built by Vekoma, can be built from scratch by Central Shops. When I was there this time about a year ago, they were preparing for a rebuild of an Everest train, while finishing up a brand new Barnstormer train.

Not when it comes to Disney's maintenance. The procedure (which I've seen in person) is to strip everything down to individual nuts and bolts, re-machine anything (as in every part) showing enough wear, reassemble, and then test before returning to circulation. Some parts may be bought from vendors, as specialized stuff is a bit more difficult to manage. But even the Kilamanjaro trucks are (for the most part) manufactured in the Central Shops by Disney. The scale at which they do repairs as well as the infrastructure they have for more fabrication is part of what makes them unique in the engineering part of the industry.

Disney is, again, unique in this aspect. While they do buy a quantity from outside companies like Garner Holt, they still do some of their own manufacturing and design of animatronics. A sizable portion of Central Shops is still dedicated to the AA department (And they have a kick-*** sign).

To corroborate, a sizable quantity of foliage/props/decor for pandora was fabricated in Central Shops.

They likely won't produce the original batch. However, they're completely able (and likely going to) repair and rebuild gondolas during their operation.

I didn't mean to have most of these quotes target you, @danlb_2000. You do some great work on this forum and for this community. But you underestimate the power of Central Shops :p

As I said, I was not questioning their abilities, I just doubt would make sense for them to manufacture additional sets of gondola cars from scratch. I think this situation is even trickier since you have an entire system designed and built by a third party. I am not sure if Dopplymyr would be willing to take responsibility for a system where they didn't build all the components.
 

MickeyMinnieMom

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Original manufacturing in some cases is done by third-parties, alongside development and testing of ride systems.

If you want specific examples, Oceaneering manufactured/manufactures many of the LPS rides (rat, MMRR, etc.), Vekoma manufactures coasters and their trains.

However, Disney does the majority of repair for these. The Everest trains, originally built by Vekoma, can be built from scratch by Central Shops. When I was there this time about a year ago, they were preparing for a rebuild of an Everest train, while finishing up a brand new Barnstormer train.

Not when it comes to Disney's maintenance. The procedure (which I've seen in person) is to strip everything down to individual nuts and bolts, re-machine anything (as in every part) showing enough wear, reassemble, and then test before returning to circulation. Some parts may be bought from vendors, as specialized stuff is a bit more difficult to manage. But even the Kilamanjaro trucks are (for the most part) manufactured in the Central Shops by Disney. The scale at which they do repairs as well as the infrastructure they have for more fabrication is part of what makes them unique in the engineering part of the industry.

Disney is, again, unique in this aspect. While they do buy a quantity from outside companies like Garner Holt, they still do some of their own manufacturing and design of animatronics. A sizable portion of Central Shops is still dedicated to the AA department (And they have a kick-*** sign).

To corroborate, a sizable quantity of foliage/props/decor for pandora was fabricated in Central Shops.

They likely won't produce the original batch. However, they're completely able (and likely going to) repair and rebuild gondolas during their operation.

I didn't mean to have most of these quotes target you, @danlb_2000. You do some great work on this forum and for this community. But you underestimate the power of Central Shops :p
Just had to comment that as a newbie here, your posts like this are really interesting to me -- thanks for sharing this info!
 

GlacierGlacier

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Just had to comment that as a newbie here, your posts like this are really interesting to me -- thanks for sharing this info!
Thank you!

Very few people on this board have knowledge of the industry as a whole and on the individual level - as I'm entering the field and learning how it works myself, I feel it's a great new perspective to add to this forum.
 

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