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Goofyernmost

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It would not need to have been covered.

Sorry for the brief reply. I’m eating in Coral Reef.
So in a light, no electrical storm, you would want to ride in an open vehicle or jump in on wet seats for your ride back to the resort and/or to the parks? I know the British are used to a lot of rain and wet weather, but, really? Or are you imagining a fully enclosed vehicle? Answer when you are done absorbing sustenance. Priorities my man, priorities! And why aren't you at the Rose and Crown?
 

Kamikaze

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So in a light, no electrical storm, you would want to ride in an open vehicle or jump in on wet seats for your ride back to the resort and/or to the parks? I know the British are used to a lot of rain and wet weather, but, really? Or are you imagining a fully enclosed vehicle? Answer when you are done absorbing sustenance. Priorities my man, priorities! And why aren't you at the Rose and Crown?

The track doesn't need to be covered - just the cars.
 
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marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
So in a light, no electrical storm, you would want to ride in an open vehicle or jump in on wet seats for your ride back to the resort and/or to the parks? I know the British are used to a lot of rain and wet weather, but, really? Or are you imagining a fully enclosed vehicle? Answer when you are done absorbing sustenance. Priorities my man, priorities! And why aren't you at the Rose and Crown?
Vehicles would be fully enclosed. It was the third version of the Peoplemover remember. V1 was Disneyland. V2 was the Tomorrowland wedway. V3 would have been the more advanced LBV version. Enclosed cars on an open track. Destination selectable. Track switches. Gradient climbing.

And I like the bread at Coral Reef :)
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
So in a light, no electrical storm, you would want to ride in an open vehicle or jump in on wet seats for your ride back to the resort and/or to the parks? I know the British are used to a lot of rain and wet weather, but, really? Or are you imagining a fully enclosed vehicle? Answer when you are done absorbing sustenance. Priorities my man, priorities! And why aren't you at the Rose and Crown?
Behold:

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Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
You could have roofs on the individual cars like that of the original PeopleMover in Disneyland. The LIM tracks don't need to be covered though, plenty of trains use them today without any cover over the railways.
It's not the tracks that I am concerned with. Even then it seems that it might be less expensive to cover the track then try and put a roof on every single vehicle needed for a people mover setup, which would explain why the tracks are covered in WDW. Just the numbers of vehicles needed in WDW as opposed to DL is palpable. People movers were available at Expo 67 in Montreal and they just couldn't run in the rain. Mechanically yes, but, no one wanted to be on it in the rain. They had a cover but anything less then a straight down rain ended up inside the vehicle. Even then as the thing would move forward the rain would be forced in. So, I can see it as possible if they were closed vehicles, but, that seems like it would be hugely expensive in today's economy.
Vehicles would be fully enclosed. It was the third version of the Peoplemover remember. V1 was Disneyland. V2 was the Tomorrowland wedway. V3 would have been the more advanced LBV version. Enclosed cars on an open track. Destination selectable. Track switches. Gradient climbing.

And I like the bread at Coral Reef :)
Absolutely nothing about that sounds economical to build and mechanically far more complex then a simple cable drive system. No, I think they made the right choice with the Gondola's. The bread does sound good though.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Well, if it were just CBR and they were willing to do a separate and new entrance to Epcot, they only had to create an elevated WEDway from the northern end of CBR and drop you off at the right side of Germany next to "Africa". That would have only been two tenths of a mile. Widen it, cover it and you could have also made it a walkway.
 

Creathir

Well-Known Member
Vehicles would be fully enclosed. It was the third version of the Peoplemover remember. V1 was Disneyland. V2 was the Tomorrowland wedway. V3 would have been the more advanced LBV version. Enclosed cars on an open track. Destination selectable. Track switches. Gradient climbing.

And I like the bread at Coral Reef :)
Absolutely love the shrimp and grits at Coral Reef!
 

Creathir

Well-Known Member
Well, if it were just CBR and they were willing to do a separate and new entrance to Epcot, they only had to create an elevated WEDway from the northern end of CBR and drop you off at the right side of Germany next to "Africa". That would have only been two tenths of a mile. Widen it, cover it and you could have also made it a walkway.
For sure. Distances would be a lot less, though that wouldn’t have solved the real issue, getting large volumes of individuals to HS, that would have needed a more extensive WEDway to do that.

Maybe we’ll see a future WEDway elsewhere?

AKL to AK perhaps?
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I’m thinking Martin was factoring that in with his statement.

He has hinted the cost of the gondola is somewhere north of $200-230 million.

Pretty sure peoplemovers connecting the same resorts could have been built for that price or less.
You should be able to build a similar size people mover type system for the same price or less. However, you should also be able to build the same gondola type system for less too. Disney finds ways to blow up budgets. That being said, I think a people mover would have been better received.
 

Lensman

Well-Known Member
Maybe we’ll see a future WEDway elsewhere?

AKL to AK perhaps?
I was thinking that AKL to AK would be a good use case for either personal rapid transit or autonomous shuttles.

Track would be relatively inexpensive and they could even build a little jogging path alongside. If they went with autonomous shuttles they would get good operational experience for when they implement them for the parking shuttles. And the track is probably reusable even when they move to a different shuttle vendor - though if they upgrade to road-worthy shuttles that can deal with car traffic I'm not sure what they might do with the track. Maybe forget the jogging path and turn the track into a jogging path in 10 years?
 
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Creathir

Well-Known Member
Aside from the drive system this looks similar to the autonomous vehicles that were talked about a short while ago...and I won’t even bring up the potential for A/C ;)
Yeah, definitely similar in concept to a PRT system, though in systems today the propulsion is internal to the ride vehicle where the current people mover tech is a external.

Power for A/C, lighting, or announcements of course would be no issue.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Is there a significant additional operational or maintenance cost to a people mover vs the gondola? The gondola mechanically is a pretty simple system but the people movers don’t seem overly complex either.
 

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