RustySpork
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Anyone who's ridden the Sky Ride at BG Tampa in August already knows how cool Disney's gondola will be.
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Anyone who's ridden the Sky Ride at BG Tampa in August already knows how cool Disney's gondola will be.
JoeCamel
Well-Known Member
Serious answer. Yes it is hot, very hot. I don't do the parks in the summer. It will be hot on the Gondola but no worse than the other places you mention.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
Actually it would be. TTA is completely covered and has periods where it's indoors in AC. WDW Railroad is very shaded with trees, as is Jungle Cruise. The only similarity is LSR, and only if you're topside.
mickhyperion
Active Member
All of the discussions about air flow seem to indicate that movement is required in order for ventilation to work properly. And we all know that Disney attractions and ride systems never stop moving, right? People are never stuck for long periods on monorails, for example, waiting to be rescued one person at a time in cherry pickers, right? And anyone that lives anywhere truly hot knows that elderly people, infants, animals, all do exceptionally well when they're confined in an enclosed vehicle, surrounded by glass, with only a window cracked open, and no air circulation, right? So, there's no reason whatsoever to question Disney's design decisions here, their track record for keeping things operational, or the combined expertise of our many many many self-professed construction aficionados here, right?
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Buried20KLeague
Well-Known Member
I'm thinking about a problem with the line.... not an individual gondola.
Buried20KLeague
Well-Known Member
How is Hong Kong a good comparison? They're EXTREMELY high up, and essentially directly over the ocean. It's apples and pineapples.
Wouldn't Oranges to Persimmon be a better analogy ?
Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
No they have to keep trying 'new' reasons why the system isn't going to work. Luckily we should start seeing construction soon so that should help keep the thread moving.
fotofx
Well-Known Member
You obviously do not live in Florida.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
Nothing like funneling in a cool 99 degree breeze to funnel out the hot 99 degree breeze.
fotofx
Well-Known Member
Yup, and again... No breeze if it stops moving. Anyone who thinks Disney is going to use enclosed ride vehicles without AC must be very misinformed. Stop listening to the bus drivers.. As mentioned earlier with elderly, handicapped, children and infants, they are not going to risk them sitting up there with no ac if that thing has to stop moving.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
I realize people have concerns, but ultimately you'll just have to believe (or continue not to) us with more cable car experience that these systems always have good airflow in motion.
This will be no better or worse than sitting on the ferries, the TTC trams, etc. They are not going to be mini human microwaves.
If they are even mildly above the tree line and have the regular speeds of the modern systems overheating will not be a concern.
This will be no better or worse than sitting on the ferries, the TTC trams, etc. They are not going to be mini human microwaves.
If they are even mildly above the tree line and have the regular speeds of the modern systems overheating will not be a concern.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The design isn’t Disney’s, it’s Doppelmayr’s.All of the discussions about air flow seem to indicate that movement is required in order for ventilation to work properly. And we all know that Disney attractions and ride systems never stop moving, right? People are never stuck for long periods on monorails, for example, waiting to be rescued one person at a time in cherry pickers, right? And anyone that lives anywhere truly hot knows that elderly people, infants, animals, all do exceptionally well when they're confined in an enclosed vehicle, surrounded by glass, with only a window cracked open, and no air circulation, right? So, there's no reason whatsoever to question Disney's design decisions here, their track record for keeping things operational, or the combined expertise of our many many many self-professed construction aficionados here, right?
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It's not bus drivers we're listening to. There's a bunch of insiders here who've seen plans and talk to execs and are in the related fields that they're in and out of a lot of parks and know a lot of folks. And their track record is good.
I was surprised too to hear no AC, but the experts in the field (we have the guy running a blog dedicated to lifts popping in here) convinced me it'll be OK.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
^^^All of this is true. Another thing to add is that AC options for gondolas are rare and not very effective. If anyone cares to look, this discussion already took place several times. Here's a post from a guy who's knowledgeable in the field.
I was skeptical of gondolas without AC when this was first discussed. I am taking the word of experts and people who have a lot of experience with these systems that it's not an issue. One additional thing to remember is if they are designed to work without AC they will be far more comfortable than if they are designed with AC but the AC charge weakens or the system isn't working at all for some reason. The reason the monorail is unbearable when the AC is broken is that there is no ventilation built in. It's not designed to be used without AC.
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
Protip: 99+ degree air that's moving past you is still hot.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
This may be splitting hairs, but in 2015 when it hit 100 degrees on one day in Orlando it was the first time in almost 2 decades the temperature went above 99. I only know this because I had a trip planned that summer when it happened. Not sure if it has happened since. I think it has only hit triple digits maybe 25 times in Orlando since they started keeping records.
Well, then, it's a good thing every pathway is covered and air conditioned!
RustySpork
Oscar Mayer Memer
Whenever you're on/over pavement it will be over 100 when it's in the 90s here, but even 99 degrees and 80% humidity will feel significantly hotter than 105 at 10%. It's not uncommon for my car to register 103-106 around town in the summer.