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[GiveMeTheMusic]

How is it that the DHS version has gone so long without ANY technological updates?

WDW guests adore it and TDO is allergic to spending money. If the dining packages keep rolling in, why spend money fixing something that ain't broke?

 

[SuddenStorm]

@GiveMeTheMusic are there any rumblings about this new version since it debuted?

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

@GiveMeTheMusic are there any rumblings about this new version since it debuted?

In regard to WDW?

 

[Californian Elitist]

WDW guests adore it and TDO is allergic to spending money. If the dining packages keep rolling in, why spend money fixing something that ain't broke?

I hear all the time how cheap TDO is, but I feel like the line would be drawn for something like Fantasmic!. How old is the show? Tech upgrades is the least they could do. Forget adding new scenes, at least bring the show technologically up to date.

 

[SuddenStorm]

In regard to WDW?

Disneyland

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

I hear all the time how cheap TDO is, but I feel like the line would be drawn for something like Fantasmic!. How old is the show? Tech upgrades is the least they could do. Forget adding new scenes, at least bring the show technologically up to date.

The same team that revamped Fantasmic here has pitched a similar redo to TDO. They have not committed yet.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Disneyland

All I've heard is that everyone is thrilled. Some in TDA think Pirates is a dud, but I haven't heard anything other than raves for the new show internally. Dining sales strong. TDA plans on DL riding Fantasmic for a long time with MSEP going away and PTN moving across the Esplanade. Until new Pixar fireworks show starts next year, Fantasmic is the shining star of the DL lineup.

 

[Californian Elitist]

The same team that revamped Fantasmic here has pitched a similar redo to TDO. They have not committed yet.

Wow.

 

[JoFu]

The same team that revamped Fantasmic here has pitched a similar redo to TDO. They have not committed yet.

Even now that they've seen how successful it is?

 

[Disney Analyst]

All I've heard is that everyone is thrilled. Some in TDA think Pirates is a dud, but I haven't heard anything other than raves for the new show internally. Dining sales strong. TDA plans on DL riding Fantasmic for a long time with MSEP going away and PTN moving across the Esplanade. Until new Pixar fireworks show starts next year, Fantasmic is the shining star of the DL lineup.

Honestly, I think obviously the fans who post on message boards will always whine about the new Pirates segment, but from everything I've seen, it gets the biggest applause every night sans the finale.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Even now that they've seen how successful it is?

I haven't heard anything about this week, but you have to understand, TDO doesn't care.

They flat out don't care. About anything. They spend money when they have a gun to their head from Burbank.

When they do things right, they learn the wrong lessons. Happily Ever After is fantastic, and a big hit for them. What's their takeaway? No night parade needed anymore! We can ride this HEA train until the 50th!

I'm sure they've heard how great F2.0 is, but I doubt they will pull the trigger on their own unless Chapek forces it.

 

[JoFu]

I haven't heard anything about this week, but you have to understand, TDO doesn't care.

They flat out don't care. About anything. They spend money when they have a gun to their head from Burbank.

When they do things right, they learn the wrong lessons. Happily Ever After is fantastic, and a big hit for them. What's their takeaway? No night parade needed anymore! We can ride this HEA train until the 50th!

I'm sure they've heard how great F2.0 is, but I doubt they will pull the trigger on their own unless Chapek forces it.

I suppose, also, that if they closed F! at DHS right now they'd have almost nothing open come mid-August.

 

[mickEblu]

Does anyone know which sections you have to be seated and which ones you are standing? I purchased a Blue Bauou dining package for Fantasmic a couple years ago and was front/ center in front of the cabin but was disappointed because the fence was onstructing the view (I was sitting first row).

What are the best seats in the house?

 

[dweezil78]

Yeah, but ours blended in better and looked more realistic against the dark TSI backdrop. And we've had Murphy for seven years now. There's a whole generation of DLR guests who have never seen Fantasmic with the old dragon.

And WDW keeps chugging along with their sadsack 1998 show with zero updates or technological improvements

For all of the DHS show's shortcomings and staleness, attending/viewing the show is a far less stressful and far more comfortable experience -- and because of that I rank 'em pretty close to one another. Sure updates would be nice, but it's still a pretty accessible and entertaining show.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Honestly, I think obviously the fans who post on message boards will always whine about the new Pirates segment, but from everything I've seen, it gets the biggest applause every night sans the finale.

I think much like Johnny Depp being inside the actual ride, it's something that we (or at least, me) will likely resent for years to come, but won't actually stop anyone from watching the show.

Was changing Pan to Pirates necessary to make Fantasmic! relevant after years of declining popularity, mostly empty shows, and an ever declining fanbase? Did it make the show more cohesive, giving a better example of Mickey's imagination than Pan was? Nope!

The only reason this change had potential was the potential of the projection mapping effects, which don't work.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I think much like Johnny Depp being inside the actual ride, it's something that we (or at least, me) will likely resent for years to come, but won't actually stop anyone from watching the show.

Was changing Pan to Pirates necessary to make Fantasmic! relevant after years of declining popularity, mostly empty shows, and an ever declining fanbase? Did it make the show more cohesive, giving a better example of Mickey's imagination than Pan was? Nope!

The only reason this change had potential was the potential of the projection mapping effects, which don't work.

Well I mean, Disney never really confirmed anything about Projection Mapping, so I find it hard to be disappointed over a lack of effects that were never really confirmed.

My opinion:

Visually Pirates is a far superior scene: from the lighting, to the way the ship looks, and the skeleton costuming, very cool and well done. In all honesty the lighting makes it look like a Ghost Ship and I have no clue how projection mapping would ever work on the Columbia. The ship is far too shiny.

Musically, mostly fine, it's pretty iconic music.

Verbally, fail. The dialogue is atrocious.

Transition into scene, fail. It should blast into those iconic pirate chords, and a cannon blast. Lose Barbossa, not needed.

 

[SuddenStorm]

Visually Pirates is a far superior scene: from the lighting, to the way the ship looks, and the skeleton costuming, very cool and well done. In all honesty the lighting makes it look like a Ghost Ship and I have no clue how projection mapping would ever work on the Columbia. The ship is far too shiny.

It'd be pretty neat to see what the Peter Pan scene would look like, with all of the new special effects put in place for the show. Yes, the new scene is 1000x better visually, but Peter Pan would be also if they had kept it and enhanced it with the new effects.

Transition into scene, fail. It should blast into those iconic pirate chords, and a cannon blast. Lose Barbossa, not needed.

The transitions into and out of the scene are so horrifically bad, that I wonder what the team behind it was thinking. They did a good job implementing the Genie segment, but then from the underwater segments-Pirates-Princess medley, the new transitions are jarring and don't help the show remain seamless.

 

[brb1006]

I hear all the time how cheap TDO is, but I feel like the line would be drawn for something like Fantasmic!. How old is the show? Tech upgrades is the least they could do. Forget adding new scenes, at least bring the show technologically up to date.

The WDW version hasn't changed in over 19 years!

 

[brb1006]

The same team that revamped Fantasmic here has pitched a similar redo to TDO. They have not committed yet.

Yet TDO still refuses to update Space Mountain and is in bad shape.

 

[Disney Analyst]

It'd be pretty neat to see what the Peter Pan scene would look like, with all of the new special effects put in place for the show. Yes, the new scene is 1000x better visually, but Peter Pan would be also if they had kept it and enhanced it with the new effects.




The transitions into and out of the scene are so horrifically bad, that I wonder what the team behind it was thinking. They did a good job implementing the Genie segment, but then from the underwater segments-Pirates-Princess medley, the new transitions are jarring and don't help the show remain seamless.

The only transition I really find problematic is the Pirates one. The underwater scenes are fine with me as they aren't really abrupt, they just kind of build up to the frantic moment with Mickey.