Stevek
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Perfect. Thanks. Would have been fantastic but the net is filled with "would have been fantastic" proposals that never saw the light of day.
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New Disneyland Parking Garage and Transportation Hub
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Figments Friend
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Part of the current plan, from what I understand.
The plan is to move the beam to make space for a DCA expansion into the current bus area on the East side of the esplanade.
The plan is to move the beam to make space for a DCA expansion into the current bus area on the East side of the esplanade.
Darkbeer1
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In regards to the AGW (Pointe Anaheim) artwork, that was a pipedream from back in the 1990's where the city along with Disney would build a true working transportation system using Monorails that would service the three Disney parks planned, Pointe Anaheim, the Convention Center and maybe some other stops. Of course, that has died, and even though the city looked at building their own later, that also has died.
Sorry, I failed to clarify. The AGW rendering shows a monorail.
truecoat
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It looks like @Old Mouseketeer addressed this already but I was done with these pics already so I might as well use them. The red arrow area below is what I was talking about.
Darkbeer, does AGW still own that empty property next to the Castle Inn? It seems like the Super 8 is blocking access between AGW and the empty land. I assume that was the problem. Would be interesting to know if they still own that or gave up and sold it off to another buyer. Disney perhaps? I know they went through some financial issues.
Darkbeer1
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I did do a record search, and it is unclear who owns it, since it is under a "holding company" name the official address is 1750 S Harbor Blvd, parcel number 08227107.
The assessed value by the County is $6.4 million (land only).
But based on the size of the lot, trying to build a Motel on the property including required parking spaces, it would be a very small property.
flynnibus
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DB - you will find this site to be the best environment for Disney chat on the web.. regardless if its DLR or WDW.. because of the way the owner operates it. This site doesn't have the build up of some of the old tipsters other sites had.. but its not some fantasyland nor dead space. The owner here allows all points of view as long as people keep it civil.. he even seems to have a soft spot for some that I would argue are persistent trolls vs legit commentary.. but what you won't find here is whitewashing and mandates on what you must think.
While there is total monarchy here.. this ain't no democracy... there any not any 'rights'.. but we have a good king who is engaged, tolerant, and reasonable
Worst case, some posts go into the bit bucket if you cross the line.. but you are never going to get slapped for having an opinion that doesn't fit the company propaganda. We have a healthy platform... the site is super stable. We have critical mass.. the site has plenty of activity. We have great news leads and coverage on WDW activities. We have a reasonable # of people with access to insider info to keep it from being an echo chamber. And we have a pretty large core base of users. All of this makes it a great place to drop by and get your Disney dose and hang out with people of similar interests.
With a little more frequency from great contributors like @Macro , yourself, and shasters like @WDW1974 the DLR forum can blow up
I hope you find enough interesting here to hang around. I really miss my old construction updates from the 2000s from you in DL.. and @Macro 's updates on WoC
With Starwars going up right in everyone's backyard.. and now future DCA/Anaheim stuff.. there is so much I yearn to see in your great photo timelines.When AGW went up for auction, it was very surprising that Disney did not bid.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mall-373627-property-group.html
There are rumors that the "Group" that purchased AGW was secretly involved with Disney and that Disney secretly owns AGW. Has anyone else heard these rumors?
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/mall-373627-property-group.html
There are rumors that the "Group" that purchased AGW was secretly involved with Disney and that Disney secretly owns AGW. Has anyone else heard these rumors?
truecoat
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I hope you find enough interesting here to hang around. I really miss my old construction updates from the 2000s from you in DL.. and @Macro 's updates on WoC
I'm right with you. Nothing like the speculation on the Pillar of Mystery or boxes, cables and structures on that WOC platform.
Darkbeer1
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Thanks, lucky I knew folks from WET designs, the contractor, that helped give me clues into the project and what Disney was thinking. And of course, there are always those change orders....
TP2000
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Ah! You are right, it does indeed look like they would add a skybridge from the hotel pool deck to the backside of the mall, right next to the existing AC vents.
GardenWalk can use all the help it can get. I imagine the mall owners would be happy to link themselves to the swanky hotel next door.
NobodyElse
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Ah, remember when we used to talk about this stuff back in 2015? Good times...
From one of my posts in that thread:
A couple of quick observations, in no real order.
- The HKS drawing shows the proposed sky bridge taking up roughly half (the north half) of the existing structure.
- Google Maps earth view shows it contains mechanical equipment. It would need to be relocated / removed.
- I took a quick field trip there yesterday. The only open businesses on the upper level are Johnny Rockets and Fire+Ice.
- There does seem to be active construction for the Toby Keith's I Heart This Bar and Grill.
- (That name has always bugged me.)
- There appears to at least be prep for demo in the old theater location (future HOB).
- The two plots to either side of the fire station are still dirt and weeds.
- On a positive note, nobody will need to be displaced to run that sky bridge straight into the courtyard.
- Positive note 2: their generous 1st hour of free parking was double what I needed to do a couple laps of looking around.
Darkbeer1
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I doubt there is any Disney money with the current ownership group, but...
Quick and short history.
Disney wanted nothing to do with AGW (Competition to DtD).
Construction on version 2 of DCA started, and Disney needed more parking spaces to replace the ones they were losing.
A deal was made with AGW, Disney built a parking lot support area (basically a temporary building). As part of the deal Disney agreed to a marketing agreement, and AP holders got discounts at the center, ads for Disneyland were part of the center, and for the most part, everyone was happy. A couple of businesses made out, especially the coffee shop and the "Discount Tickets and Tours" store. But since the lot was used early in the day, there was little impact when guests returned from the parks, tired and with lighter wallets.
So did Disney talk to the serious groups looking to buy the property. Of course they did, as they still use the AGW lot on occasion for parking (but a lot less since Toy Story got up and running full bore.)
And talking about AGW parking, where will the construction workers park working on the new Pumbaa structure and transportation hub. Their contracts require close parking (think tools and equipment issues). Remember where they got to park when DCA 2.0 was being built (the now CM Backstage parking area south of "a bug's life". Looks like AGW will be getting used a lot more soon.
And that ties in with history, and Disney and the city in regards to traffic. The city forced Disney to build the special construction vehicle staging area where Flakey Jake's and the nightclub was next to I-5 (now becoming the new Cambria Hotel). They also implemented specific times when the vehicles could drive on Katella Avenue to DCA property.
So the construction workers will force DLR CM's farther out to allow the construction workers get the prime spaces due to their union contract.
Macro
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Ah, the Pillar of Mystery and the green beam.
WDWMagic is starting to look like a LaughingPlace and MiceChat refugee zone.
On MiceChat there are some militant folks who are upset that they're building the new parking structure. There's just a few of them but they seem to dominate the threads at times. They figure that if parking becomes even more difficult then people will be forced to use public transportation. So building the new parking structure and making it easier for those of us who drive is actually an opportunity lost. Plus, it's not sustainable or something. Oh, wait... that was the Autopia. Damn cars!
Personally I look forward to the beginning of a DLand day being less torturous. This new parking structure looks like the nicest thing Disney's done in a long time for those of us coming up I-5 from the south.
180º
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MiceChat is absolute lunacy right now. I hope at one point the Disneyland forum here will grow almost as large as the WDW forums, which have a great variety of people and opinions as well as a strong, trusted lineup of forum veterans. And wdwmagic's discussion boards have been time-tested and proven valuable.
Californian Elitist
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I'm very content with the amount of DL forum regulars we have here.
180º
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Fair enough, but a Darkbeer every now and then never hurt anyone.
NobodyElse
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The funny thing is even though all these sub-forums are on the same server and domain, one would think they're as far apart as their subject parks. More than once I've seen people in the "Walt Disney World" section speculating, or asking blind questions about Disneyland when that info is readily available right here. It's an odd phenomenon.