New Disneyland Big Thunder effects will they come to WDW?

flynnibus

Premium Member
Are you kidding me right now? Imaginary? .

Yeah after working w/o issue for how long? And you still think it had nothing to do with cheap upkeep? Never mind the reputation dlp had for its regular upkeep too right?

And what did Disney do in reaction? Simply turn them all off. Again over reaction... Unless you really think the company that spends hundreds of millions of dollars to build amusement rides can't make a reliable effect that has been done for decades everywhere.
 

WDW1974

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This new scene replaces the shaking rocks. It is projection mapping and I'd expect it won't be confined to just DL. It's a fairly easy refit, but very effective effects. Can't always get to redo's like this immediately, though - may have to wait a little while for schedules and budgets. RE: Mermaid, can't blame the show producers for that. Larry and Lisa are excellent at what they do, and made something good out what they were assigned with the resources and direction given.

I've generally noticed over the years that when an attraction is at WDW and elsewhere that inevitably there will be more effects and details in the other versions.

BTMRR at DL always had kewl fiber optics of gold dust in that scene ... while MK never did ... Paris has the explosion in the shaft (fanbois, stop laughing!) ... I can't even remember what TDL has as I only rode it twice and it was pretty damn close to perfect.

My longwinded point being that just because TDO/WDI could add this to the FL version in no way should suggest they will.

I will certainly second your comments on Larry. I don't know very much about Lisa to make any comment. ... But Mermaid flat out sucks for a 21st century Disney attraction. It would have been fine had it opened in the mid-90s.
 

cheezbat

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WDW will not get this. Why would TDO spend the money? It'd have to be forced on them by Burbank(like practically every other new thing.)

Now enjoy your Big Thunder Mountain with your upside-down falling rocks projection and quit whining.
 

sponono88

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....You honestly think that's rope light? It's image-mapping projection, people! Yikes.

It seems WDI are having quite a bit of fun with projection mapping effects at DL. In 2010 they upgraded the Snow White ride and gave the Queen a more dramatic reveal, as well as some rain in the finale scene.



Then last year they gave Mara a facelift using the same tech at the Indiana Jones Adventure..



This latest change at BTMRR takes it a bit further with moving props and smoke effects so it might require more time to install and program. The upgrades I posted about above were installed in a matter of days.
 
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Sped2424

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I see the trend of TDA and how they view and upgrade their attractions with little details like this, if only wdw did the same.
 

Californian Elitist

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This new scene replaces the shaking rocks. It is projection mapping and I'd expect it won't be confined to just DL. It's a fairly easy refit, but very effective effects. Can't always get to redo's like this immediately, though - may have to wait a little while for schedules and budgets.

If I'm correct, MK's Pan doesn't have the starfield and never received the special effects Disneyland received for Snow White either, which aren't as gnarly as these new effects for Thunder. It doesn't seem like the WDW counterparts end up receiving the updates/new effects.
 

TP2000

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I've generally noticed over the years that when an attraction is at WDW and elsewhere that inevitably there will be more effects and details in the other versions.

BTMRR at DL always had kewl fiber optics of gold dust in that scene ... while MK never did ... Paris has the explosion in the shaft (fanbois, stop laughing!) ... I can't even remember what TDL has as I only rode it twice and it was pretty damn close to perfect.

My longwinded point being that just because TDO/WDI could add this to the FL version in no way should suggest they will.

Tokyo's Big Thunder has a track layout that seems similar to WDW, but with show scenes and effects that are nearly identical to Disneyland circa 1995. As of a couple years ago, Tokyo still had the Anaheim earthquake scene with mechanical shaking and projected cave-in effects. I skipped Big Thunder on my last Tokyo visit, but I haven't heard its been changed lately.

And I agree with the consensus here that states although its entirely possible for TDO to buy this new special effect for the WDW Big Thunder, they won't want to spend the money on things as silly as theme park rides and this new level of showmanship will remain a Disneyland exclusive in North America. A shame, but it's up to TDO to make a dramatic course change and prove us wrong.

Now I wonder what they'll be doing next week when Little Mermaid closes at DCA for a two month rehab? Miceage says there's big new show effect improvements coming to Mermaid in Anaheim, so that will be another interesting thing to watch. And then in May we can wonder whether it will get cloned for WDW too.
 

articos

Well-Known Member
I've generally noticed over the years that when an attraction is at WDW and elsewhere that inevitably there will be more effects and details in the other versions.

BTMRR at DL always had kewl fiber optics of gold dust in that scene ... while MK never did ... Paris has the explosion in the shaft (fanbois, stop laughing!) ... I can't even remember what TDL has as I only rode it twice and it was pretty damn close to perfect.

My longwinded point being that just because TDO/WDI could add this to the FL version in no way should suggest they will.

I will certainly second your comments on Larry. I don't know very much about Lisa to make any comment. ... But Mermaid flat out sucks for a 21st century Disney attraction. It would have been fine had it opened in the mid-90s.
If I'm correct, MK's Pan doesn't have the starfield and never received the special effects Disneyland received for Snow White either, which aren't as gnarly as these new effects for Thunder. It doesn't seem like the WDW counterparts end up receiving the updates/new effects.
Every so often, the company will surprise. Agreed that Mermaid is subpar, and a lot of others would agree as well. Lisa was with Universal for a decade prior to moving to Disney, and was responsible for BVS. She's very good, if not well known.
 

The Visionary Soul

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WDW has been notorious for removing LN2 from budgets for new attractions. (Everest, anyone?) If WDW would do it, they would cut the LN2 from the scene, and just the projectors alone really aren't as impressive.
 

TP2000

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WDW has been notorious for removing LN2 from budgets for new attractions. (Everest, anyone?) If WDW would do it, they would cut the LN2 from the scene, and just the projectors alone really aren't as impressive.

Interesting. I wonder why WDW (TDO?) has an aversion to installing LN2 gas/smoke effects? Is it the humidity in Orlando that makes it harder to maintain those systems? Or is it just money and a "the tourists are too stupid to care" mentality that some have mentioned creeps into TDO financial decisions?

Thunder Mountain at Disneyland is still in Cast Member preview testing, it doesn't officially open until March 17th and AP previews are this weekend. But during these CM previews they appear to be having problems getting the LN2 fog to fire for every train.

Miceage has a day/night preview video up now from this weekend's Cast Member testing rides, during the day preview at the 3:00 mark the fog doesn't fire, but later that night at the 6:35 mark in this video the fog fires. The fog does improve the effect quite noticeably, so I'm sure WDI is working on getting the effect to work for every train. Still an interesting effect to watch; I'm especially impressed at the flame and spark effect at the start of this scene at 6:35.

 

surfsupdon

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One of my favorite WDW rides...this looks like a great addition to DL...heres hoping something that neat would head to the right coast.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Anahiem and Tokyo constantly tinker with their existing attractions and improve them while WDW's versions rot without basic maintenance much less consistent improvements.

Last time I checked Tokyo still had rubber-spider Haunted Mansion, 70s 10 elephant Dumbo, the same Peter Pan as Orlando and a white concrete Tomorrowland. I have never heard of Tokyo upgrading their effects beyond the Pirates movie tie-in. Do they build new things and keep existing attractions in fantastic shape? Yes, but "plussing" is not something they're known for.
 

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