New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

thegoatfeeder

thegoatfeeder

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Chi84 said:
Disney decided a few years ago to take away free FP+ and start charging everyone for access to it's now Lightning Lanes. Non-disabled guests have had a couple of years to get used to the idea that WDW is going to be more expensive if you want to avoid standing in long lines.

Disabled guests were not impacted until recently, when Disney decided to greatly reduce access to the DAS program, so they are just now experiencing the impact of a paid system. It seems you have a good idea of the in-line accommodations offered and whether or not they will work for you. They are designed to accommodate you but not without some level of discomfort or difficulty, which will differ based on circumstances.

I agree with the posters who are suggesting buying LLMP/LLSP. The sad fact is that Disney has made WDW more expensive for everyone, disabled and non-disabled, these days. It probably won't change anytime soon, so your options are currently limited.
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I hear you! Going to be an expensive 14 days, well even more expensive I guess!
 
CampbellzSoup

CampbellzSoup

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thegoatfeeder said:
New member to the forums, so I do apologise if this has been queried before but I am currently feeling a lot of anxiety and stress over my upcoming trip.

A little bit of background, we are an adult couple from the UK who are both AP holders and DVC members. I have both a mobility disability due to a road traffic accident when I was a child (I use an ECV at Disney), bladder and bowel conditions and suffer from high levels of anxiety generally, but much higher levels of anxiety around access to bathrooms due to urgency.

We generally travel as a couple, and in the past have always used the DAS system to access attractions. As I understand it, I will no longer be granted that priviledge, and I do not particularly want to get into whether I should or not, I am more concerned about what options will be available to me.

Firstly, I understand that I will be able to leave a line to use a bathroom, however, as I use an ECV I think it would be extrordinarily difficult for me to do this, just the thought of turning around and navigating against a flow of people triggers my anxiety. On top of that, when I have to go, I don't really have a much amount of time to get there, this isn't a problem in a 20 minute lightning lane, but in a 60 minute regular line it could be horrendous, and if a line is more than 40 minutes, I will pretty much have to leave it (at least) once.

The 2nd provision as I understand, is that my partner could do the line and I could wait outside the line for her to reach the front, at which point I could use the LL. The issue here is that I sometimes require assistance accessing the bathroom, this would not be possible if she were in the line.

Long story short, I am basically feeling really negative and down about our December trip for the above reasons, I kind of feel like I am being pushed into paying for Genie plus ( I realise it now has a new name, but off the top of my head I can't recall what it is!).

Is there any provisions Disney has offered anyone that I may not be aware of that might be of assistance? Because the 2 outlined above are not going to help me at all.

Sorry for the long post!
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Have your partner wait in the line and then you can join them at the lightning lane point when they make it there and you can go to the bathroom in the interim.
 
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Splash4eva

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NotTheOne said:
The poster already said this wouldn't work, as they sometimes need their partner's assistance in the restroom.
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Im not questioning the poster at all or anyone else who says it cant work or they need assistance etc. im just curious if one needs assistance how does someone go to a bathroom on a plane. It can barely hold one person let alone another… again not being someone with no compassion but just wondering. Like i get older people etc but most times they cant even travel and enjoy. I watched my grandparents suffer the same fate but they also were in no position to travel let alone to a theme park
 
Ayla

Ayla

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Splash4eva said:
Im not questioning the poster at all or anyone else who says it cant work or they need assistance etc. im just curious if one needs assistance how does someone go to a bathroom on a plane. It can barely hold one person let alone another… again not being someone with no compassion but just wondering. Like i get older people etc but most times they cant even travel and enjoy. I watched my grandparents suffer the same fate but they also were in no position to travel let alone to a theme park
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Considering they are coming from the UK (where they obviously don't have the option of driving), this is an extremely valid point.
 
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jennab55

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RememberWhen said:
I’m not the OP, but airplanes are notoriously inaccessible for many disabled people. Despite it having negative health affects, many people will deliberately dehydrate themselves so they won’t need the bathroom on a long flight.
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Yep, this is my husband. He won’t eat anything on travel days until we get to our destination. He will drink water or ginger ale, but sparingly.
 
Vacationeer

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thegoatfeeder said:
I hear you! Going to be an expensive 14 days, well even more expensive I guess!
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We have some issues in our party -not quite to the level of us needing to request DAS- but where long lines may interfere. My sister is joining and can get overanxious in the wait leading up to a ride, so as a party we may pivot away from a ride like ToT or Slinky Dog when the line’s too long. We want to encourage her. She has fun on the actual ride and wants to do them. The challenge is riding before she has too much time to dwell on the thrill aspects.

Buying LL-multipass (I don’t know what to call the new one either lol) probably won’t smooth all out. Hopefully it helps us though. It is an added expense but my plan is to just get it a couple days where it’ll make the most difference. I don’t think it’s necessary to buy everyday.

Days we don’t have it we’ll do the easier rides and shows, and take advantage of any low wait opportunities (rope-drop, parks close, EEH, etc). We stuck the 2 LLm days mid-trip with plans to hop. Maybe that helps us accomplish a few of the harder rides with less difficulty.

Goodluck and have a great trip. It’s hard for any of us to say whether or not DAS will be granted in your case. It is possible so I think worth the try. But if it doesn’t happen I wanted to let you know it’s probably not necessary to buy all the LLs for all 14 days of your trip. A popular strategy is getting ILL for FoP at AK one day, mLL for a day each at MK and HS, and only buy ILL for Cosmic Rewind at EP if you don’t have more than one day to try for VQ. A step up from that would be picking an ILL for one day at each park, and mLL for a different day each park. The first strategy is under $100 per person over the trip, the second is closer to $200pp over the trip. We’re going with the first strategy and I don’t love the idea of spending the extra $400 but hoping it’ll increase the total value of our trip more than if we spent that money at Chef Mickey’s or Savi’s Workshop.
 
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Splash4eva

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RememberWhen said:
I’m not the OP, but airplanes are notoriously inaccessible for many disabled people. Despite it having negative health affects, many people will deliberately dehydrate themselves so they won’t need the bathroom on a long flight.
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Again tho if someone has issues how do those issues go away by doing what you are saying for an 8 hour stretch. My ex has IBS and it didnt matter at all what she did/did not eat so im curious how people get by daily life with certain conditions
 
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jennab55

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Splash4eva said:
Again tho if someone has issues how do those issues go away by doing what you are saying for an 8 hour stretch. My ex has IBS and it didnt matter at all what she did/did not eat so im curious how people get by daily life with certain conditions
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Yes, that is why it makes sense for conditions like IBS to be excluded from DAS. It is happening everywhere, not just in lines. I say this as a person whose husband has IBS. He has strategies depending on the situation. Sometimes he wears an adult diaper just in case. Yep, it’s probably embarrassing, but they do make depends that look like real underwear now and less embarrassing than the alternative…. While at Disney I try not to schedule long queues or rides after meal times. Sometimes though he still ends up needing to leave the line or tells us to go without him. Yes it sucks he has to miss out on things, but that is his everyday life and we just pivot. While my son has been eligible for DAS in the past, I still buy the paid system (G+ in the past) to try to make it a bit less stressful and easier for everyone in our party.
 
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Splash4eva

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Also not to keep pushing. Im sure plenty of people who have DAS also utilize Disney bus services which we all know has waits then load times then busses sitting there waiting to leave then travel times then unload times at hotel then a walk to your room not to mention the time it takes to leave the park & get to the busses which alll must be done with no special treatment yet i havent read or heard anyone complain or threaten lawsuits either over that… kind of makes you scratch your head at times as well.
 
Angel Ariel

Angel Ariel

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Splash4eva said:
Im not questioning the poster at all or anyone else who says it cant work or they need assistance etc. im just curious if one needs assistance how does someone go to a bathroom on a plane. It can barely hold one person let alone another… again not being someone with no compassion but just wondering. Like i get older people etc but most times they cant even travel and enjoy. I watched my grandparents suffer the same fate but they also were in no position to travel let alone to a theme park
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from personal experience - I am lucky to still be able to fit in the small airline bathrooms with DD, though as a she's a tween it's getting harder to do that. It helps that the autoimmune issues I've developed recently have also resulted in me losing weight (unintentionally, and not for good reasons, but it helps this particular scenario).

But we have still had the occasion where she needed enough assistance that I had to get the help of flight crew to give her privacy. Due to the assistance she needed i couldn't close the bathroom door, and we were at the front of the plane. The flight crew were very kind and opened some doors of closets/cabinets to help create a screen so that she couldn't be seen by the people in the front rows.

airplane bathrooms are horrific for those who need assistance. There are horror stories of wheelchair users dehydrating themselves before flights so they don't have to go. Thankfully I do believe there was a new rule added by the dept of transportation that in the coming years will require some amount of airplane bathrooms to be built large enough to allow for a companion. It's ridiculous, yet also unsurprising, that it's taken this long.
 
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jennab55

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Angel Ariel said:
from personal experience - I am lucky to still be able to fit in the small airline bathrooms with DD, though as a she's a tween it's getting harder to do that. It helps that the autoimmune issues I've developed recently have also resulted in me losing weight (unintentionally, and not for good reasons, but it helps this particular scenario).

But we have still had the occasion where she needed enough assistance that I had to get the help of flight crew to give her privacy. Due to the assistance she needed i couldn't close the bathroom door, and we were at the front of the plane. The flight crew were very kind and opened some doors of closets/cabinets to help create a screen so that she couldn't be seen by the people in the front rows.

airplane bathrooms are horrific for those who need assistance. There are horror stories of wheelchair users dehydrating themselves before flights so they don't have to go. Thankfully I do believe there was a new rule added by the dept of transportation that in the coming years will require some amount of airplane bathrooms to be built large enough to allow for a companion. It's ridiculous, yet also unsurprising, that it's taken this long.
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I have always wondered why there isn’t a larger handicap accessible bathroom required on planes. There are definitely people out there who need it.
 
Ayla

Ayla

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jennab55 said:
I have always wondered why there isn’t a larger handicap accessible bathroom required on planes. There are definitely people out there who need it.
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Because it would have to be at the front of the plane and for most airlines, that is where First Class is. Peons are not allowed to use the FC bathrooms.
 

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