Agreed. Without a disability what was posted (which is possible) … would be abuse.
Again its already been proven so many DONT do it. Im sorry. 8% of guests have DAS from whats been reported. Of which how many are outright frauds?!? So the number is not as high as people keep saying it is.
Again. Its been said 8% of guests have abuse. Of which obviously a good amount actually need it. So with all this “encouragement” NOT many people are abusing it…
Honestly ive lost track who says what and it seems like everything changes in regards to this seemingly hot topic…
Blame Disney for allowing bigger party sizes. Blame Disney for allowing 2 pre books. Blame Disney for their policies. You cant blame maybe the 2% of guest who are lying to get it under completely fraud and selfish terms.
It was right there in the OP’s post.
I said start time was 3:45pm. I am assuming all walking speed is @3 miles per hour wait times were accurate at 3:45pm.
| DAS user (that does not need DAS, but got it anyway thus is abusing the system, OR a legitimate non-abusing DAS member following Disney's rules) | Non-DAS user | |
| Walk to mad tea party ~0.3 miles [3:51pm] | Walk to 7D ~.33 mile [3:52pm] | |
| 10 min wait for ride [4:01pm] | 75 minute wait [5:07pm] | |
| 90 second ride [4:03pm] | 3 min ride [5:10pm] | |
| Walk to little mermaid ~.14 miles [4:06pm] | Walk to Space mountain [5:14pm] (Can make new LL at 5:14PM) via thrill data could book a 6:15 return time for Buzz) | |
| 10 min wait for ride [4:16pm] | 15 min wait in the LL [5:29pm] | |
| 7 minute ride [4:23pm] |
| |
| Walk to dumbo ~0.05 miles [4:24pm] | ||
| 10 min wait for ride [4:34pm] | ||
| 90 second ride [4:36pm] | ||
| Walk to space mountain ~.2 miles [4:40pm] (Can make new LL at 4:40pm) via thrill data could book a 5:50pm return time for Buzz) | ||
| Lets call it a 15 min LL wait for Space [4:55pm] | ||
| 3 min ride (1 min for exit) [4:59] | ||
| walk to 7D ~.2 miles [5:03pm] (can book another DAS return time for JC at 5:13pm that will be ready to be redeemed at 5:48pm | ||
| We can call it 15 mins in ILL [5:18pm] | ||
| 3 min ride (5:21pm) |
This example is meant for either a person that does not need that time, but still can not wait in a line more than about 15-20 mins or a person/group that has no need for DAS that got it anyway.
Has anyone really claimed DAS while using Genie or taking advantage of short wait times while “waiting” in line virtually is on an equal playing field as a non DAS user… assuming they are in parks the same amount of time. Which may i add is a BIG assumption. But i dont think anyone would really argue that. Again blame Disney for this noone else. They created this mess and the fix is what? Now telling people who need DAS they are no longer eligible. Will now sell more Genies potentially and standby lines will imo not move a blink unless they stop fudging wait times and proclaim victory
They are trying to fix it by limiting how generous they’ve been in conferring DAS.
They could have done that by changing some of the rules 1st as opposed to literally telling people who relied on this that they may be denied access. Ive suggested plenty which would make things for Disney way better and allow for a better experience for all. The only issue they have is re rides bc thats a tricky situation. They should have “tested” the changes out without ruffling all the feathers they are but it seems like they realize this is effecting bottom line numbers money wise & some bean counter said hey we can make more money. Did changes need to be made 100%.
I'm sure those people exist. Being that wdwmagic is a small subset of Disney fans, and an even smaller subset of DAS users, how many of those people are the people responding in this thread is not something any of us can know.
What a customer feels they “need” is not the exact accommodation that a company must provide. It only needs to be a reasonable accommodation for that person’s type of disability, and even then, one that doesn’t fundamentally alter the company’s business.
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"abuse" in the sense that the system was never intended to be an 'advantage' to do more in a park - simply to facilitate accommodating for people's needs. When you combine power with the absence of real constraints.. you get a situation that was never the intended outcome.
You have others have kept repeating the same thing yet refuse to also blame Disney & these unintended consequences are the results of allowing soooo many people they allow in groups more than the frauds who have obtained it. I just think its funny that people think standby us gonna drastically be reduced.
She's the perfect example of someone who doesn't need DAS. She functions just fine everywhere else BUT at Disney. I would have kept my mouth shut if I was her - though it is amusing how all these Gen Z "content creators" think their whining is going to change anything. Let them keep outing themselves...One thing we can probably all agree on is that Disney has not been great about the communication on this. Where did all their PR/communication people go? I feel like so many of their moves in recent years have been so hamfisted. I mean, no company wants to be portrayed as heartless to people with disabilities. They definitely could have rolled it out better.
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That’s much more difficult to see though. So I can’t, personally, compare.
Agreed. If Disney had capped the party size, they probably would have been able to control the program better.
