New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[The Mom]

That is assuming people won’t get greedy and will only use it when they NEED to. Personally I’ve seen many people state that they need DAS because it MIGHT happen at any time, so I don’t think people would use it sparingly if allowed RTQ, they would use it at every ride just in case.

But on the same theory. People with sun issues I think should be able to get a RTQ on rides with lots of outdoor queues in the sun…. That would be only for those rides though.

This becomes a circular argument because these people who have sudden "emergencies" have no way of knowing when they will occur. They could be fine one minute and in distress the next, with no way of knowing how long the problem will last.

 

[jennab55]

This becomes a circular argument because these people who have sudden "emergencies" have no way of knowing when they will occur. They could be fine one minute and in distress the next, with no way of knowing how long the problem will last.

Yes, which I why they ended up on DAS for “just in case” because their needs can vary day to day, hour to hour, etc.

 

[Chi84]

To me, (and only me apparently), it’s not the order, it’s the comma.

Here is Disney’s text:
“Guests who, due to a developmental disability like autism or similar disorder, are unable to wait in a conventional queue for an extended period of time”

I (incorrectly) interpret the comma as listing reasons one could use DAS:

• Guests who, due to a developmental disability like autism or similar disorder.
• Guests who are unable to wait in a conventional queue for an extended period of time.

Obviously I know from reading these forums, the new DAS qualifications are very specific but the wording (for me) reads differently.

That interpretation would render the words “due to a developmental disability like autism or similar disorder“ superfluous.

 

[jennab55]

No. What im saying is people who were generously given DAS for conditions that albeit valid most likely are not happening on every single ride and attraction. Still grant them that luxury on a needs basis but make it where its not as easy and convenient and will no longer be this free for all. Disney basically had no plan and it shows as months later people still dont have clarity…

They had plans but yes there was confusion. I also don’t think their plans were supposed to be black and white and that bothers people. Their plans for the other accommodations vary depending on factors like party size, wait time, etc. People don’t like that they don’t have one clear answer, but it’s variable, which isn’t necessarily bad as it can work out in their favor in some instances.

 

[Splash4eva]

This becomes a circular argument because these people who have sudden "emergencies" have no way of knowing when they will occur. They could be fine one minute and in distress the next, with no way of knowing how long the problem will last.

you can say that about any setting tho? In a car? On a plane? A train? A ballgame? A movie? At some point someone needs to draw the line & say hey we are gonna help but we are also gonna be realistic about it as well. So now because of what you said all those people NO longer have access they use to have and its nothing more than a gray area of confusion

 

[The Mom]

That interpretation would render the words “due to a developmental disability like autism or similar disorder“ superfluous.

Disney has a wide range of guests, and some may only think of disabilities as being physical. Which may be why Disney gave one example of a disability that is not physical. I interpret it as saying that the accommodations are not just for those in wheelchairs, etc.

 

[Chi84]

Disney has a wide range of guests, and some may only think of disabilities as being physical. Which may be why Disney gave one example of a disability that is not physical. I interpret it as saying that the accommodations are not just for those in wheelchairs, etc.

I read it as qualifying language. If they meant it as an example or an addition, they would have prefaced the words with “such as” or “including.” When they say “due to” they mean disabilities caused by a developmental disorder.

 

[The Mom]

you can say that about any setting tho? In a car? On a plane? A train? A ballgame? A movie? At some point someone needs to draw the line & say hey we are gonna help but we are also gonna be realistic about it as well. So now because of what you said all those people NO longer have access they use to have and its nothing more than a gray area of confusion

They are all situations where it is easier to get to a restroom, or a quiet spot to calm down - and your "seat" will still be there when you return.

 

[Splash4eva]

They are all situations where it is easier to get to a restroom, or a quiet spot to calm down - and your "seat" will still be there when you return.

Guess you have never been to a playoff game in NY before…

 

[NotTheOne]

This becomes a circular argument because these people who have sudden "emergencies" have no way of knowing when they will occur. They could be fine one minute and in distress the next, with no way of knowing how long the problem will last.

Fair enough, but should they all receive the DAS accommodation as a just in case? It appears that Disney is saying "no", and I think they're correct.

 

[Splash4eva]

Fair enough, but should they all receive the DAS accommodation as a just in case? It appears that Disney is saying "no", and I think they're correct.

Exactly and thats why the suggestion ive posed and im sure others have as well makes best sense to do the right thing. It just seems like its either i want all i previously had or say any other option doesnt work. Again if Disney laid these plans out clearer and actually had a realistic game plan it would have been alot easier

 

[Disstevefan1]

That interpretation would render the words “due to a developmental disability like autism or similar disorder“ superfluous.

Yes, in looking at their website again it’s clear:
“Learn how this service supports Guests who, due to a developmental disability like autism or similar disorder, are unable to wait in a conventional queue for an extended period of time.”

 

[jaklgreen]

Yes that is what DAS is intended for. However, there is a whole page before that on disabilities in general. People who don’t even know about DAS wouldn’t go straight to the DAS page.

Read the very first sentence of the page https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/guest-services/guests-with-disabilities/

“Disney is dedicated to providing a great experience for all Guests, including those with disabilities, which is why we are so committed to delivering a wide range of innovative support services aimed at helping our Guests with disabilities have a wonderful time when visiting our theme parks”

You are picking and choosing what you want to fit your narrative.

No, I am saying what I have seen many first time visitors ask about on other forums. I have no narrative other than to believe that people with disabilities should be accommodated. No one should have to stress over whether or not they will be able to enjoy the parks because Disney is vague about what kind of accommodation they may or may not give a person.

 

[jaklgreen]

All im saying this and im not saying everyone before i get attacked. People who have IBS DONT have to go to bathroom 24/7. Those who suffer from Anxiety. DONT suffer 24/7. Im sure you get my point. So all im saying is Disney decided to give people carte blanche with those Valid reasons now what they need to do is this. Okay its still valid but ONLY for when you need it and ONLY you can leave line or have 1 other with you and then rejoin the line at a certain point whether it be at a merge or another entry point wherever its not overly difficult on a good amount of rides to make this happen.

The issue that I can see with this is that these types of medical conditions are unpredictable. So you may be fine for a couple of hours and then it hits you. And it is not a simple as a quick trip to the restroom and then back in line. The flair up can last 20-30-40 minutes. Of course then the other family members will probably just go on the ride without you. Then when your flair up is over, you then have to rejoin the queue as a family or ask to go ride on your own. With DAS, if someone had a flair up, everyone would be together and wait it out until you can go back to riding as a group.
That is why Genie+ does not work well with these types of conditions, because you are not guaranteed to be able to make your return time.
Another legitimate concern for people with these types of conditions is being "stuck" in a queue 30+ minutes in and having a flair up. It is one thing to, in a rush, leave the LL because it is much shorter. There is a reason why many can't do the lines that are longer, even in LL, like Soarin'.
Then Disney makes the whole process so vague, that it does add stress and anxiety. I can see why some people are just deciding not to go to WDW anymore.
Everyone here has their own mindset on how they think things should be handled, and that is fair. But until a person has a specific medical condition that they live with, they shouldn't be saying what others should and should not be able to handle.

 

[jaklgreen]

Fair enough, but should they all receive the DAS accommodation as a just in case? It appears that Disney is saying "no", and I think they're correct.

But that begs the question of "how often" is enough for you to think that someone should get a DAS? Is it when their condition presents itself 3 times a day, 4, 5, every 2 hours. etc? When you have a condition where at any time you can embarrass yourself in the middle of a queue and pretty much ruin your day, do you really blame people for wanting to not have to take that risk? You have to remember that people live with these conditions every single day of their lives and have adjusted, sometimes drastically adjusted how they live and what they can do. The Disney parks were a little bit of normal that they did not have elsewhere. Many have also drastically adjusted how they tour even with DAS.

 

[jennab55]

No, I am saying what I have seen many first time visitors ask about on other forums. I have no narrative other than to believe that people with disabilities should be accommodated. No one should have to stress over whether or not they will be able to enjoy the parks because Disney is vague about what kind of accommodation they may or may not give a person.

Most of the people I see ask about it on fb are specifically asking about DAS because they used to qualify.

 

[jennab55]

The issue that I can see with this is that these types of medical conditions are unpredictable. So you may be fine for a couple of hours and then it hits you. And it is not a simple as a quick trip to the restroom and then back in line. The flair up can last 20-30-40 minutes. Of course then the other family members will probably just go on the ride without you. Then when your flair up is over, you then have to rejoin the queue as a family or ask to go ride on your own. With DAS, if someone had a flair up, everyone would be together and wait it out until you can go back to riding as a group.
That is why Genie+ does not work well with these types of conditions, because you are not guaranteed to be able to make your return time.
Another legitimate concern for people with these types of conditions is being "stuck" in a queue 30+ minutes in and having a flair up. It is one thing to, in a rush, leave the LL because it is much shorter. There is a reason why many can't do the lines that are longer, even in LL, like Soarin'.
Then Disney makes the whole process so vague, that it does add stress and anxiety. I can see why some people are just deciding not to go to WDW anymore.
Everyone here has their own mindset on how they think things should be handled, and that is fair. But until a person has a specific medical condition that they live with, they shouldn't be saying what others should and should not be able to handle.

Yes but the difference is the line is not causing the issue. The issue happens everywhere, not just in lines. Same as being in a car, that person has to plan ahead and sometimes stop randomly.

 

[Splash4eva]

The issue that I can see with this is that these types of medical conditions are unpredictable. So you may be fine for a couple of hours and then it hits you. And it is not a simple as a quick trip to the restroom and then back in line. The flair up can last 20-30-40 minutes. Of course then the other family members will probably just go on the ride without you. Then when your flair up is over, you then have to rejoin the queue as a family or ask to go ride on your own. With DAS, if someone had a flair up, everyone would be together and wait it out until you can go back to riding as a group.
That is why Genie+ does not work well with these types of conditions, because you are not guaranteed to be able to make your return time.
Another legitimate concern for people with these types of conditions is being "stuck" in a queue 30+ minutes in and having a flair up. It is one thing to, in a rush, leave the LL because it is much shorter. There is a reason why many can't do the lines that are longer, even in LL, like Soarin'.
Then Disney makes the whole process so vague, that it does add stress and anxiety. I can see why some people are just deciding not to go to WDW anymore.
Everyone here has their own mindset on how they think things should be handled, and that is fair. But until a person has a specific medical condition that they live with, they shouldn't be saying what others should and should not be able to handle.

Listen i have DAS and understand plenty of conditions but bc of this all or nothing attitude is the reason why we are where we are at … yes things happen no denying that but people who have plenty of conditions no longer included most likely dont suffer majority of times and again im NOT saying all of them but as i stated im pretty confident in saying most people who claimed “anxiety” dont have panic attacks every time. Most people who claim “ibs” dont need to go to bath every 20 minutes. Funny those same people have NO issue riding stuff like RISE, KS, Soarin etc have no issues yet a 10 minute line is a problem?!? People got greedy and felt entitled and here we are. Good luck in court is what i tell everyone.

 

[NotTheOne]

But that begs the question of "how often" is enough for you to think that someone should get a DAS? Is it when their condition presents itself 3 times a day, 4, 5, every 2 hours. etc? When you have a condition where at any time you can embarrass yourself in the middle of a queue and pretty much ruin your day, do you really blame people for wanting to not have to take that risk? You have to remember that people live with these conditions every single day of their lives and have adjusted, sometimes drastically adjusted how they live and what they can do. The Disney parks were a little bit of normal that they did not have elsewhere. Many have also drastically adjusted how they tour even with DAS.

They can do rider swap and wait outside the line - so no, I wouldn't be providing DAS for bathroom issues or for any other issue that isn't caused by being in the actual line.

 

[Splash4eva]

They can do rider swap and wait outside the line - so no, I wouldn't be providing DAS for bathroom issues or for any other issue that isn't caused by being in the actual line.

Only excpetions are solo travelers or a single parent situation