News New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[Angel Ariel]

Can we not get stuck in the DOJ/ADA loop again?

Apparently not.

 

[NotTheOne]

It's ridiculous, not "almost silly."

I was about to post "almost"?

 

[NotTheOne]

Doesn’t the DOJ regulate ADA accessibility? Not sure if regulate is the right word - but that’s what you used.

Is it a “line skip system” or is it an accessibility for disabled guests?

It's a line skip system that provides accessibility for those for whom Disney deems it necessary.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It's a line skip system that provides accessibility for those for whom Disney deems it necessary.

So it’s not an accommodation for disabled guests?

 

[Chi84]

So it’s not an accommodation for disabled guests?

Not entirely. It’s an accommodation for those with developmental disabilities such as autism who - due to that disability - are not able to stand in conventional lines.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Not entirely. It’s an accommodation for those with developmental disabilities such as autism who - due to that disability - are not able to stand in conventional lines.

I agree with that definition - and that definition does not equal “a line skip system”

 

[NotTheOne]

So it’s not an accommodation for disabled guests?

First, not for all disabled guests. Second, it can be both a line skip system and an accommodation (which it is).

 

[NotTheOne]

I agree with that definition - and that definition does not equal “a line skip system”

Why are you so dead set on insisting it's not a line skip system? I mean, that's literally what it is.

 

[Chi84]

I agree with that definition - and that definition does not equal “a line skip system”

It’s more than a line skip system. If it wasn’t, it would just be Disney giving its current line skip system to disabled guests free of charge.

 

[NotTheOne]

The new DAS system ( if one can qualify for it) provides free superior access compared folks without it.

In my mind that goes beyond just accommodation.

I feel sorry for the folks with real limitations who are now being rejected in this new system.

I don't think that in all cases it's beyond accommodation for those who really need it, but in many cases, yes, I would agree. I would definitely like to see some changes to it.

 

[Chi84]

I don't think that in all cases it's beyond accommodation for those who really need it, but in many cases, yes, I would agree. I would definitely like to see some changes to it.

I doubt it will change anytime soon. The only change I can see is possibly adding a documentation requirement to the current form of DAS if Six Flags wins the lawsuit.

 

[NotTheOne]

I doubt it will change anytime soon. The only change I can see is possibly adding a documentation requirement to the current form of DAS if Six Flags wins the lawsuit.

I agree, I don't think it will change.

I also don't think they'll go the documentation route, since documentation really does nothing more than verify a diagnosis/disability. Since people with the same diagnosis can have different needs, I'm not sure proving a disability would help.

The changes I would like to see, acknowledging they won't happen, would be to put a time limit on the return (4 or 5 hours), not allow another DAS booking until you're in the vicinity of the ride you want to book, and not allowing DAS users to wait in a standby line while they have a DAS return time on the books.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

and not allowing DAS users to wait in a standby line while they have a DAS return time on the books.

What are they allowed to do?

 

[Angel Ariel]

since documentation really does nothing more than verify a diagnosis/disability

That's not necessarily true. I told my daughter's ped when she wrote the letter for IBCCES that I did not want her diagnosis shared (as it would cause more questions than answer), and to focus on describing presentation that impacts her in theme parks. She used generic terms to reference the diagnosis rather than the specific name, and it worked out fine.

Yes, I did this voluntarily - but there's no reason an entity couldn't specify that this is what's required

 

[Chi84]

I agree, I don't think it will change.

I also don't think they'll go the documentation route, since documentation really does nothing more than verify a diagnosis/disability. Since people with the same diagnosis can have different needs, I'm not sure proving a disability would help.

The changes I would like to see, acknowledging they won't happen, would be to put a time limit on the return (4 or 5 hours), not allow another DAS booking until you're in the vicinity of the ride you want to book, and not allowing DAS users to wait in a standby line while they have a DAS return time on the books.

I don’t think those types of restrictions would be practical to implement.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The only change I can see is possibly adding a documentation requirement to the current form of DAS if Six Flags wins the lawsuit.

Do you think they will? Obviously you don’t have a crystal ball but interested in your thoughts on it.

 

[Chi84]

Do you think they will? Obviously you don’t have a crystal ball but interested in your thoughts on it.

Only if the current system doesn’t work out the way they hope it will.

 

[NotTheOne]

What are they allowed to do?

Anything except stand in line for another ride.

 

[NotTheOne]

I don’t think those types of restrictions would be practical to implement.

I agree restricting access to standby or only allowing a ride to be booked on DAS once in the vicinity aren't practical at this time, but putting and end time on the return would be very easy.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Anything except stand in line for another ride.

Can they watch a show?