Didn’t FP+ disappear during the pandemic, a couple of years prior to Genie+ launch? People who visited the parks during that time only had DAS as an option for accommodation… and then after Genie+ launched they were already used to using DAS.
Sure, some never even used FP if they first visited after jt went away, but I don’t that is the majority.
When did DAS completely go away
For guests visiting for most part its been gone. I believe for AP it can go for another week or so
Wait, I thought it was just modifications as to who still gets DAS and a series of other modifications to it
Yes. I think the person meant that anyone who had it prior to the changes. There were people who applied right before the changes took effect who still have DAS under the old rules.
How about we blame people for being awful humans?
I agree. I wish those who want to discuss G+ would just start their own thread.
What smaller changes should Disney have made to DAS to make it less susceptible to abuse/overuse?
I feel this would be too easy. I bet I could ask my Dr to fill out a form saying I need an accommodation at Disney (I do have a disability). I think a lot of people could easily get their dr to fill this out. The issue is if Disney gives DAS to everyone who has a legit disability it’s too many people to make it work. So they chose to narrow the scope of who DAS is for and offer alternative accommodations to others.
Accommodations for employment are different. I’m saying I could get a doctor to fill out a form stating I need DAS. I think most doctors want to help their patients and will do so if they can. If a patient says it will help their trip I’m guessing a dr would complete it.
www.psychologytoday.com
What’s interesting to me is the 2nd bullet. It made me think back, a lot of the denial reports I’ve seen are for adults more so than kids. I’ve been seeing a lot of approval posts recently for kids, especially those who have accommodations at school and can explain them. Of course I have seen some denial posts for kids too (most are not in the neurodivergent category). Anyone else noticing this?DAS mentioned in Psychology Today
Year-Round Accommodations for Neurodivergent Children
Many year-round accommodations are available to support neurodivergent children and help them have better experiences. Find out how you can empower your child.
It’s possible Disney may adopt this system if they find that the current DAS interviews aren’t sufficient to ensure DAS is going to only those who legitimately qualify for it.DAS mentioned in Psychology Today
Year-Round Accommodations for Neurodivergent Children
Many year-round accommodations are available to support neurodivergent children and help them have better experiences. Find out how you can empower your child.
I do think it is a stretch to compare what a school provides for assistance vs a theme park. That's just not really fair or appropriate. It also doesn't address the reasons why too many users would be something Disney is trying to limit in the first place. Nor is there any mention of other options other than paid LL or DAS..like rider switch etc.DAS mentioned in Psychology Today
Year-Round Accommodations for Neurodivergent Children
Many year-round accommodations are available to support neurodivergent children and help them have better experiences. Find out how you can empower your child.
@lentesta posted some data upthread that seemed to support a drastic decrease in lightning lane use which, in turn, would necessarily decrease standby waits versus what they would be without that decrease.
I can only speculate what the results of any of this would have been, but I think it could have been similar to what they've ended up with but less severe. Limiting the number of party members that can accompany the DAS holder helps address both the "VIP Tour Guides" situation and the groups who would rather lie to get DAS than pay the cost of Genie+ for their party of 8. The 10-minute rule helps limit a loophole for legitimate DAS users. Where I'd differ is tightening up eligibility less drastically. There was certainly a fair amount of scope creep over the years in the set of disabilities being granted DAS, and cast members being too reluctant to deny requests, but I think that could have been addressed by cutting out a smaller set of use cases and better training cast members. Especially if Genie+ had been designed better to begin with as well - the price was set too high, it should have been purchasable in advance, it should have allowed the same pre-booking capabilities as FastPass+, etc.
Well, there's that too, but awful humans are awful humans everywhere they go. That's hardly unique to Disney guests.
Well they are changing that part next week right (ability to pre-purchase and pre-book)? I also don’t think the price is too high when you compare it to universal. Isn’t their express pass like $100 per person for a day? If Disney priced it too low then everyone will buy it, so I think they have to be in the middle somewhere or it would be pointless.
