But if FP worked for Figment, why doesn’t G+? They both had 1hr return time windows?
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Chi84
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Fastpass+ was replaced with standby (with standby accommodations) for everyone when Disney started selling Genie+.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
They do. But since Figment has a disability - and was previously granted a DAS pass because of that disability - they think it is unfair to be forced to pay for the same access that was previously free.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
That doesn’t have anything to do with what I said so your point is lost on me?
Chi84
Premium Member
I don't have a disability - and I was previously granted FP+ as a Disney guest - and I think it's unfair to be forced to pay for the same access that was previously free.
This isn't about fairness; it's about access. If you try to make it about fairness, nothing makes sense.
But in this example Figment didn’t even need DAS until FP went away and G+ was introduced. To me it seems more along the lines of Figment doesn’t want to pay for G+ even though it would work for him.
And having a "legit disability" doesn't mean you need a DAS.
I don't get why this is so hard to understand.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
Well I don’t like that either and think it’s a major mistake of Bob, Jeff, and Josh. All 3 of them should have been willing to fight against it.
But I don’t have a disability - I wait in standby lines now. Not the end of the world. If I had a disability that kept me from waiting in line, I would think it was wrong to charge me for that access.
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
because we don’t agree. Not agreeing doesn’t mean I am not capable of understanding.
But you said Figment didn't need a DAS when FP was in place. So if they were able to see experience the park with FP, why can't they experience it with Genie+ and still not get a DAS?
(Hint: they can - they just don't want to have to pay for it)
Chi84
Premium Member
But does having to pay for something mean that it is not accessible?
OK, so you believe that EVERYONE with a "legit disability" should be issued a DAS, whether they need one to experience the parks or not.
And this is exactly why it had to be changed...the perfect example of "overuse".
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
well you can’t ask people to pay in order to have a wheelchair loaded onto jungle
Cruise can you?
Chi84
Premium Member
No one is doing that, though. They aren't asking people to pay to leave the line and return.
This is different. Disney is not going to be forced to give away free a system that they are selling to both disabled and non-disabled people. The exception would be for people with disabilities that could not be reasonably accommodated in the standby lines (and they are severely limiting that group).
Those who can be accommodated but do not want to deal with the difficulty or discomfort of standby lines are free to buy the paid system.
But they can ask people (disabled or not) to pay to rent a wheelchair right?
networkpro
Well-Known Member
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Sorry, I can't help you. DAS ot GAC are gone and the average waiting times have decreased as a result.
Tigger&Pooh
Active Member
Didn’t FP+ disappear during the pandemic, a couple of years prior to Genie+ launch? People who visited the parks during that time only had DAS as an option for accommodation… and then after Genie+ launched they were already used to using DAS.
Sure, some never even used FP if they first visited after jt went away, but I don’t that is the majority.
Figgy1
Premium Member
When did DAS completely go away
Splash4eva
Well-Known Member
For guests visiting for most part its been gone. I believe for AP it can go for another week or so