New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

ConfettiCupcake

Well-Known Member
It’s starting to seem like some on here are happy that people with disabilities are being denied DAS…. That’s a really weird take.

Those with Disabilities should absolutely get DAS - if the parks can’t handle that, that’s because the parks are under built or poorly designed.

I’d argue that people with disabilities being able to tour without DAS would actually point to good design and adequate capacity.

The park being unmanageable without using DAS all the time is the failure IMO. The goal should be to have to give it to the least amount of people possible, because the implication of that is that most can be accommodated in some less drastic way, no?
 

Chi84

Premium Member
There are a lot of angry anecdotes about people being denied DAS but it’s been strangely quiet here lately and I’m not sure I’ve seen anyone posting about AQR.
Some people here are also posting on the disboards. I’ve seen more anecdotes there.
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
Definitely. It’s been about 20 days since the new rules came into effect. More and more are expiring each day.
None should be close to expiring. For another say 2 weeks. Im there until the 19th and my window was open 3 days prior to the new rules. The entirety of your trip is covered under the old rules. So in theory people with trips starting on the 17th still will be grandfathered in so say trips last 5-7 days. I dont think anyone can make any real assessment until the week starting 6/25th
 

SingleRider

Premium Member
None should be close to expiring. For another say 2 weeks. Im there until the 19th and my window was open 3 days prior to the new rules. The entirety of your trip is covered under the old rules. So in theory people with trips starting on the 17th still will be grandfathered in so say trips last 5-7 days. I dont think anyone can make any real assessment until the week starting 6/25th
But more and more each day are expiring until there are no more left. Some who got approved in early May would already be expiring.
 

Angel Ariel

Well-Known Member
But more and more each day are expiring until there are no more left. Some who got approved in early May would already be expiring.
They also wouldn't be in the parks anymore as their trips would be over, so they wouldn't be adding to lines anyway. Unless you're solely talking about the local AP holder/DAS population. But WDW has always been more of a visitor park than a locals park compared to DLR.
 

SingleRider

Premium Member
They also wouldn't be in the parks anymore as their trips would be over, so they wouldn't be adding to lines anyway. Unless you're solely talking about the local AP holder/DAS population. But WDW has always been more of a visitor park than a locals park compared to DLR.
According to other posts I've read, local APs make up a significant number of DAS users.
 

Angel Ariel

Well-Known Member
Summer being slow also isn't something new just happening. It was noted all last summer too, when the prior form of DAS was still very much in effect. It seems very premature to be trying to tie wait times to DAS changes.


This one was written before the pandemic (and therefore before closures) in 2020, talking about how the previous few years had had slow summmers also, and how 2020 was expected to be slow as well

 

C33Mom

Well-Known Member
They also wouldn't be in the parks anymore as their trips would be over, so they wouldn't be adding to lines anyway. Unless you're solely talking about the local AP holder/DAS population. But WDW has always been more of a visitor park than a locals park compared to DLR.
I would assume the main group that still has DAS beyond next week are APs/CMs plugged in enough to know that changes were coming and they should plan a trip in early June (which I believe will keep DAS until 30 days later, as late as mid-July)—but if you have the ability to visit the park year round, why would you want to go in this brutally hot weather? It wouldn’t surprise me if there were a few groups with more flexibility who chose to move their summer trip to this week or next to avoid the uncertainty of not qualifying after the unknown, unspecified changes…but that’s hard to do for most families. I would assume there’s going to be a gradual decrease from late May until mid-July, at which point there will be none of the old system users left (but I would also expect an uptick in more successful abusers by then as people learn to work the new system).
 

Mem11

Active Member
At WDW, the new DAS rules do not take effect until June 19th or 20th.
Not exactly, the new rules came into effect on 5/20/2024 and one of the rules was that you could no longer go to guest services to get approval for DAS.

I'm sure there have been some who tried to go through GS since 5/20 and where told they would have to call and do a video chat. Some would have been rejected, others may not even have made the effort.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
Disney not charging for Fastpass never, ever made sense to me (even if the OG Fastpass did help with park ops) because those aspects can be realized through paid “Fastpass equivalents” as well.
It made sense from a guest relations perspective. Disney Parks, at one time, really did excel in guest relations / customer satisfaction. I remember a bottled coke at Disney Parks was like $2 when it was $4 at six flags. There was a line that Disney tried to walk in order to be both profitable and also leave guests happy and wanting to return.

In relation to DAS, a free fast pass system would solve the problem for many guests needs who don’t qualify for the new DAS system, but still need to skip the line for any number of reasons.

The pay for fast pass issue is part of the problem here.
 

DoubleSwitchback

Well-Known Member
Not exactly, the new rules came into effect on 5/20/2024 and one of the rules was that you could no longer go to guest services to get approval for DAS.

I'm sure there have been some who tried to go through GS since 5/20 and where told they would have to call and do a video chat and some would have been rejected, others may not even have made the effort.
A lot of the past few posts are talking past each other with vacationers versus APs/power users. I think the summary is:
  • Most casual vacationers are long past having DAS under the old rules
  • In 10 days, no one will have preselects left
  • APs/power users could potentially still be under old approval rules until July 18th, and I'd think most were savvy enough to renew under the 60 day limit as late as possible
 

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