New DAS System at Walt Disney World 2024

[Happyday]

What happens say in my case where im a single dad with a minor daughter? Im sure i am far from alone here. Or parents who split up to go on different rides…

That would not effect the return line as much as a whole group like they were talking about. So a max of two just trying to be hopeful. It is getting more difficult as this continues

 

[Splash4eva]

That would not effect the return line as much as a whole group like they were talking about. So a max of two just trying to be hopeful. It is getting more difficult as this continues

Thankfully i was able to get in before this changes and will have to deal with this for say 18 months… where im sure it will look completely different lol

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

If it involves the lightning lanes then it doesn't solve the issue these changes were purportedly to address - lessening the # of people in lightning lanes.

Sure it does. You think everyone who previously qualified for DAS is going to need to use the return to line feature every single time they ride an attraction?

 

[Splash4eva]

Sure it does. You think everyone who previously qualified for DAS is going to need to use the return to line feature every single time they ride an attraction?

I agree in theory they will not and thats what Disney is hoping for BUT once the cat is out of bag on how returns work people are gonna simply say they need to use the bathroom and not wait on line and re enter however Disney decides. My guess people in larger parties cant abuse this but again we dont know exactly how its gonna work.

 

[SourcererMark79]

Sure it does. You think everyone who previously qualified for DAS is going to need to use the return to line feature every single time they ride an attraction?

I can't see this being abused, no matter what the system permits or doesn't permit. It seems like a bit more trouble than for what it's worth unless you really do need to use it.

 

[Splash4eva]

I can't see this being abused, no matter what the system permits or doesn't permit. It seems like a bit more trouble than for what it's worth unless you really do need to use it.

This is where ill disagree…. We dont know how this will work but you have to hope that if one leaves the line for whatever reason the time they are gone does not work against them… so with that being said. Why wouldnt someone join line say they have to leave go do things that are short and come back close to the wait time? In theory the same way DAS was used… now with that being said anyone with multiple people in parties my guess is will have to keep people on the regular line but there will be plenty of cases where parents cant do that…

 

[Angel Ariel]

Sure it does. You think everyone who previously qualified for DAS is going to need to use the return to line feature every single time they ride an attraction?

Return to line wasn't the only alternative possible accommodation. Rider switch was listed as a possible alternative accommodation also (for disability separate from use for those not tall enough), which also uses lightning lane. And that is likely to be used for many attractions for an individual person who has that accommodation each day.

 

[Comped]

My example of a guest who may be dealing with this kind of uncertainty, is someone with temperature regulation issues. Not developmental, so still unclear if they will be given DAS. Can’t be solved with wheelchair + standby. So leaving it up to attractions who may have different outcomes depending on if the queue is inside with good A/C or outside.

Or myself, someone with a developmental disability (as defined by the CDC and other federal agencies), who can't use a wheelchair (as often I have nobody to push me, and asking my literally half-blind self to push or use an ECV is just asking for safety issues). Not ideal!

 

[Happyday]

Return to line wasn't the only alternative possible accommodation. Rider switch was listed as a possible alternative accommodation also (for disability separate from use for those not tall enough), which also uses lightning lane. And that is likely to be used for many attractions for an individual person who has that accommodation each day.

We already use rider switch when the DAS individual can not or will not ride an attraction. We are not the only ones either, that being said I don't think everyone knows this and Disney is bringing it to the forefront during the changes.

 

[SourcererMark79]

This is where ill disagree…. We dont know how this will work but you have to hope that if one leaves the line for whatever reason the time they are gone does not work against them… so with that being said. Why wouldnt someone join line say they have to leave go do things that are short and come back close to the wait time? In theory the same way DAS was used… now with that being said anyone with multiple people in parties my guess is will have to keep people on the regular line but there will be plenty of cases where parents cant do that…

Ok, I see your point the way it needs to function shouldn't be a disadvantage, that's fair, and yes, it needs to provide the accomodations it was intended for, and that could certainly be abused by guests who would use that time to do anything but use the restroom.

The cynic in me would like to see how high the flames will reach from the dumpster fire when this rolls out.

 

[Splash4eva]

Ok, I see your point the way it needs to function shouldn't be a disadvantage, that's fair, and yes, it needs to provide the accomodations it was intended for, and that could certainly be abused by guests who would use that time to do anything but use the restroom.

The cynic in me would like to see how high the flames will reach from the dumpster fire when this rolls out.

Soaring well above Cindys castle that is for sure!

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

someone with a developmental disability

If you have a developmental disability then you are still eligible.

 

[Splash4eva]

If you have a developmental disability then you are still eligible.

This is part of my point. ADHD is considered one… so anyone who is “abusing” the system now has an easy out to continue to do so. Do people really think this will not happen?

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

This is part of my point. ADHD is considered one… so anyone who is “abusing” the system now has an easy out to continue to do so. Do people really think this will not happen?

Of course there will still be abuse. The idea is to reduce abuse. A lot of the arguments in this thread seem to boil down to “You can’t eliminate all abuse so why bother trying?”

 

[Splash4eva]

Of course there will still be abuse. The idea is to reduce abuse. A lot of the arguments in this thread seem to boil down to “You can’t eliminate all abuse so why bother trying?”

Because the argument is accurate. They are doing good things tho with the reducing party size & pre books

 

[lazyboy97o]

Of course there will still be abuse. The idea is to reduce abuse. A lot of the arguments in this thread seem to boil down to “You can’t eliminate all abuse so why bother trying?”

Because making things more difficult for people who need accommodations is not going to reduce the abuse. You need to stop people from lying about their needs. So long as they know what to say they can just say it. This is trying to reduce use by bluntly disqualifying people, the same strategy they originally tried with DAS.

 

[Angel Ariel]

Because making things more difficult for people who need accommodations is not going to reduce the abuse.

This.

If i felt this would actually reduce (not eliminate - reduce) abuse I'd feel differently.

I am very cynical that it will do much of anything to reduce abuse.

 

[Splash4eva]

This.

If i felt this would actually reduce (not eliminate - reduce) abuse I'd feel differently.

I am very cynical that it will do much of anything to reduce abuse.

People who lie to get access will continue to do so….

 

[Chi84]

People who lie to get access will continue to do so….

Then even more will have to be done. Disney wants people back in lines or paying to avoid them. With an aging population and expanding categories of disabilities, the system may not be able to handle DAS like accommodations even absent any abuse.

 

[Splash4eva]

Then even more will have to be done. Disney wants people back in lines or paying to avoid them. With an aging population and expanding categories of disabilities, the system may not be able to handle DAS like accommodations even absent any abuse.

But again. The numbers are Not bad. 8% of guests are getting DAS which to me is Not alot imo of which All are not lying. So say 2% is lying again not a high number. The issues lies with this…
Party size. They are addressing this (total of 4 now) i can argue to reduce that to say 2 and then make a case by case basis for families and that eliminates groups of adults…
Pre bookings handing everyone 2 extra rides is NOT needed again they are addressing that as well.
Elephant in room are re rides. Not sure how you handle that
Genie+. No way they are going to tell people willing to pay they cant. So how to handle that again is a tough one. Tough to say you cant hold 2 at once but maybe find a middle ground. I really dont know but to me re rides are an issue…