No offense. We have pretty much said past abusers will continue to find ways to abuse the system. This is only gonna cause issues for people who actually need this service. Im just glad i was able to get approved last night and not have to deal w this new system until its kinks are worked out
I didn't label that as abuse. Again, it's going to be situational, and probably very hard for Disney to figure it out, but I could see some edge/egregious cases being easy for Disney to figure out if they care to. Leaving, going on a different ride, and coming back could certainly be one example. Patterns of use could be another, but I do agree difficult to figure out what is legitimate versus what is not, and Disney will have to err on the side of legitimate in most cases.
Also true. However, abuse of the "return to line" system likely will not have as much of an impact on capacity and park operations as abuse of the current DAS "virtual wait" system.
So people who specifically dealt with only DAS issues Disney deemed unqualified yet some college intern now is gonna be in charge of this? Hahaha. This gets better by the minute if this is truly the plan
Where are you getting that from?
Thats what Disney is 100% banking on but we have seen countless times them miscalculate things. The minute people find out they can leave the line and return via LL queue it will
Im just saying if Disney is leaving it up to the people working each attraction intheory some college intern is now the ones in charge…
Well that's why I think Disney is being intentionally opaque with how exactly this will work, and I agree with that decision.
Why tho? That makes no sense… anyone who has a trip booked in June for most part still qualify under old system i just did it… so come Monday when people call and get denied Disney would most likely have to offer some assurance on how people will be accommodated and that will not go into effect until coincidentally basically when Tiana opens… so why this big secret
Because one of the reasons the previous DAS system was so abused is because of how much and quickly information spread everywhere about how easy it was to abuse it. Keeping the information opaque should help with that somewhat.
How long do you really think any info is going to be kept quiet or secret?!? Come on Fido we both know better… and ive also said Disney already gave a blueprint on how to beat the system already. So basically anyone abusing the system who has a child will simply claim the child is “autistic” etc and from what we can tell will be approved
Access isn’t supposed to be a secret. That’s why there are requirements for certain design features to be in certain places, so people aren’t stuck trying to figure things out.
Disney’s plan imo is this. Cant stand a long time? Get a wheelchair or something similar. Have IBS issues no problem get in line you can go beforehand and then if you need to leave we will let you (hoping noone does bc now you cant go ride other things). Thats to me their initial plan and the other factor that will help is this. Getting rid of the pre books
The accommodations you’re mentioning are in the regulations. This is different.
They will probably also offer Genie +. Don’t forget that part.
Well Genie+ is already offered to anyone even DAS users… are you saying offering it for free? If so thats an interesting take and curious how that would play out
No, not free. I suspect they are hoping more people with disabilities will choose to buy it instead of waiting in line.
IMO, for what that's worth, return to line DAS will work if Disney allows people to enter through the exit to meet up with their group, otherwise, chaos in the line will ensue. I'm basing this anecdotally on my experience with the old GAC when it was being changed.
Yes, this is how I understood it will work, from the brief explanation that was shared with me. Frustration along the lines of: “How are *we* (attraction host) supposed to evaluate people, when Disney doesn’t want Guest Relations people doing it anymore?”
Oh well yes. Ive said this is another money grab for them for sure while trying to weed out the small percent of people abusing it. Listen. The reduction of party size and eliminating pre books will help for sure even if they changed no rules…
