News New Changes Coming to the Disney Look 2021

[MagicHappens1971]

They're at $19/hour now, and will cap at $22/hour in FY 2027.

Ahh. Okay I thought they were presently at $21. I guess I was mislead

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Ahh. Okay I thought they were presently at $21. I guess I was mislead

I thought it was around that number as well but I’m not certain. Several positions are paid more because they are hard to fill.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I thought it was around that number as well but I’m not certain. Several positions are paid more because they are hard to fill.

I did a college program in ‘22, and that was what I was told. $21/hr. But maybe I’m wrong. I currently live in a pretty touristy place as a manager at a resort, and our HSKPers are paid $22-$24/hr.

 

[larryz]

With the cost of employment, $50k should be $70k.

That makes sense, since everybody says 70 is the new 50...

 

[larryz]

And both are equally unskilled jobs.

Also, given how frequently the TSA fail their tests, I'd argue that Disney CMs should earn more than the TSA.

Unskilled to a point, but a GOOD TSA agent and a GOOD CM will have impeccable people skills, something that has become increasingly harder to find in today's climate of self-(and selfie)imposed electronic isolation.

 

[larryz]

What color are they allowed to dye their hair or nails?

It is a different world today. Even the Air Force is loosening restrictions, as evidenced by this chart...

 

[larryz]

And what exactly does enforcing the Disney Look get the employees in return?

A free main gate pass. CVS employees don't get 'em. Amazon delivery drivers don't either.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

agree with 8 with the caveat that people who risk it all starting a business should have no cap, they take the risk they should reap the rewards,

That would be owners and not CEO’s though.

 

[larryz]

Ideally:

1. Every job has a payscale of minimum to maximum pay based on the tasks of the job description. This is true for all jobs from dishwasher to CEO.

2. Entry level employees start at the bottom of a payscale. As they do the job well and reliably, they can go up in steps along the payscale for that job since they now have experience. Those who acquire specialized training or certification or degrees go up the steps within that payscale.

3. People with experience or certification/degrees can start higher up within that payscale.

4. Once an employee hits their max, they get no more raises.

5. The payscale gets adjusted yearly for inflation.

6. For someone who wants to earn more than what the payscale allows, they need take on new jobs and responsibilities. In effect, their job description has changed, and along with it, a new and higher-paying payscale. This could be as simple as becoming a trainer for other dishwashers, or taking on a newer and more demanding job in the business.

7. The lowest pay level for any payscale needs to be enough for the person "to make ends meet." Unskilled entry level full-time employees shouldn't be the equivalent of slave wages. There are 18 year olds with no experience or skills or living family members. They should still be able to eat and pay rent on a full time entry job. No society should have systemic 'working' poverty.

8. The highest pay level for any payscale needs to be kept from skyrocketing millionaire-ism. CEOs need to stop sitting on one another's boards and giving one another outrageous salaries. By capping the top, this is how you afford a living-wage payscale for unskilled entry jobs at the bottom. The payscale needs to be raised at the bottom and lowered at the top.

9. When the business does well, everyone should be getting a bonus, from top to bottom.

10. Anyone with a tattoo or dyed hair should be immediately terminated.

I know a place like that...

Spoiler

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

But if people keep acting like $18 is underpaid for a cashier, they’ll never be happy. I made $13 as a salaried manager scheduled for 55 hours a week and working more than that.

I think this is why the modern wage demands sound so insane to those of us who are older, my first job in the late 80s paid $3.35 an hour, by the the late 90s I had worked my way up to a salaried mid level manager working 50 hour weeks for $32k, that’s less than people make flipping burgers in many areas now.

I’m equally as astounded that a home that should cost $200k (in my mind) now costs $400-500k, or a car that should be $15k (in my mind) now costs $35k, or a tank of gas that was $30 is now $65. Prices on everything are out of control.

 

[larryz]

Prices on everything are out of control.

M-m-m-must. N-n-n-n-ot. Re-re-re-re-re-ply!

 

[mkt]

Just went through TSA to catch my flight. A mistake overlooking a bag with an illegal item could mean life and death to the souls flying on that flight. A mistake a custodial CM makes can be corrected and job completed to standard. You are making TSA as unskilled which may be the case but their responsibility to protect lives and catch the bad guys supersedes a park greeter position that makes similar or more per hour.

I don't disagree.

However, in the years since 9/11 (the reason that the TSA was created), passengers have shown that they will take down a disruptive passenger, and most important, locked cockpit doors, the federal flight deck officer program, and federal air marshals effectively make another 9/11 a practical impossibility in the US. Which is good, because with their high failure rate on tests, the TSA has shown to not be doing much for flight safety.

 

[bpiper]

TSA gets a federal pension and government benefits. The two jobs aren't remotely comparable.

No they don't get a full pension. They get a small pension (FERS), but only if they retire from the agency, not if they leave. Most of their retirement is the TSP, the government's version of a 401K and any social security. Health insurance will vary.... Depends upon your location. In the high cost NorthEast, you still pay a lot per month.

 

[Nubs70]

That makes sense, since everybody says 70 is the new 50...

Not really.
It costs money to employ someone. A rule if thumb is 1.4x wage (dependent on benefits) So, if f/t ee at $25/hr makes roughly $50k/yr.

$50k x 1.4 = $70k

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Here’s a question - should executives get yearly raises? If so, why shouldn’t front line workers? What makes you qualify for yearly raises?

 

[larryz]

That makes sense, since everybody says 70 is the new 50...

Not really.
It costs money to employ someone. A rule if thumb is 1.4x wage (dependent on benefits) So, if f/t ee at $25/hr makes roughly $50k/yr.

$50k x 1.4 = $70k

 

[James Alucobond]

Here’s a question - should executives get yearly raises? If so, why shouldn’t front line workers? What makes you qualify for yearly raises?

I’ve no idea how it works at Disney, but … don’t people at most places get length of service and performance-based raises even if they’re frontline workers? I got raises even when I worked jobs in high school. That said, the process was less formalized than my salaried jobs which have tended to have a specific annual review period, but even then, getting a raise is contingent on performance:

 

[Nubs70]

You got me

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I got raises even when I worked jobs in high school.

So did I. But I hesitate to mention it because it would show what a loser I was by keeping my first job for multiple years.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

And what exactly does enforcing the Disney Look get the employees in return?

A job. Take it or leave it. But whatever you agree to at the interview is your duty. If you don’t like it, don’t agree to it, and find something else.

Not really.
It costs money to employ someone. A rule if thumb is 1.4x wage (dependent on benefits) So, if f/t ee at $25/hr makes roughly $50k/yr.

$50k x 1.4 = $70k

(Sigh.) That’s why I said 50k, because their pay is 35k and I was rounding up for taxes, etc.