Nearly a fight on the Monorail

[FourFourSeven]

People that fight tend to have low self esteem. Mac users and Nascar fans top the list.

*Note to self...check police reports to see if any were DVC owners..*

You're just TRYING to pick a fight here, aren't you!

As a member of one of those three groups you call out, I'm offended by the insinuation that we like to fight! You have offended my peaceful nature - I challenge you to a fight to settle this for once and for all!

Uh...wait...never mind...

 

[Dakotadogy]

I once had a huge "school" group of teens removed from Universal.


We were in line at Back to the Future, and watched as the this group (about 15 teens) would one-by-one and very slowly slip by 4-5 families. Then they'd cluster in a big group, wait about 2 minutes and then start again. You could see it happening because the line was all outside and woven in the little metal corals. But you could tell, they were trying to be really sneaky.

Everyone was complaining but no one blocked their way or even said anything to them.

Finally, we saw a staff person, (I guess they're not called CM there) and alerted them to the situation. A few minutes later, security showed up, found the teens, who were way, way, way far ahead of us by now, and escorted them out of the line.

We found out later, that they were part of a school field trip and and got into a lot of trouble with Universal, their school and hopfully their parents.

It just really irked me what they were doing and their snide comments to each other about how cool they were because they thought they were getting away with it.

Michele

 

[mikeymouse]

I can't believe how ignorant some ppl can be in the parks. Its a wonder how the CM's can still keep a smile on their face. Pushing and shoving all the time. I also can't believe how sum ppl don't pay any attention to their kids. I watched a 4 yo almost get run over by a WDW bus. Luckily the driver saw him and stopped. I guess that yellow line is there for a reason, Mom. :hammer: I do have to say I've met some of the nicest ppl at WDW. Just while waiting in line or whatever, we create our own disney entertainment. Its not worth it to start a fight. If someone cuts line, let 'em go, they will get theirs. Plus it will only cause you a few more seconds of a wait. Its just not worth it. Its pretty ignorant to fight in front of other ppls kids too.

 

[mikeymouse]

I NEVER have understood the need to haul ______ out of the park right at close. I like to watch Illuminations from around Norway then slowly wander around the lagoon the long way and just enjoy the near-empty park. Sometimes I won't be out until like an hour or more after park close. Later.

Yea, what is the rush? At MK this past fall, we stood on Main Street until the park was near empty after Wishes. You're gonna end up waiting for a ferry/bus/monorail anyway, might as well wait inside the park and just enjoy the scenery. Watch the castle change colors. Its beautiful.

 

[disneyfamily]

I never understood why people are in such a hurry to leave a place it takes so long and so much money to get into. We stay as long as we can to get every pennies worth. My family usually sits down somewhere and just people watch and observe the herd as it ambles by at a snails pace. We laugh as everyone gets bent out of shape. Then after about 20 minutes it seems like the park is deserted and we make our way out at our own pace. Works in all parks.

 

[Raven66]

Mine was at the MK. We were waiting for a tram and it had been about 20 minutes (which isn't that bad) but it was sooooo hot out. Well, any way, it finally arrived and my daughter started towards the opening and several ADULTS, came out of nowhere, pushed her out of the way and jumped on. I was so mad . I'm usually fairly peaceful, but don't touch my baby :zipit: . Luckily the tram pulled away before I could do too much damage.

 

[Woody13]

While you may be right about Mac users, leave the NASCAR folk out of this! There are many folks that are lovers of both NASCAR and Disney. Besides, I would much rather be trapped on a monorail full of NASCAR fans than football or WWE fans.

= MAC User
= Pace Setter in Left Lane

I am a NASCAR fan......Nice jab Woody. :lol: :wave:

You're just TRYING to pick a fight here, aren't you!

As a member of one of those three groups you call out, I'm offended by the insinuation that we like to fight! You have offended my peaceful nature - I challenge you to a fight to settle this for once and for all!

Uh...wait...never mind...

You people are cool! :kiss: :sohappy:

Would you rather he changed it in line? I know the people around them wouldn't! It was a bathroom break after all. (those darm babies, pooping where ever they need too!) :lookaroun

The problem is you can use any reason, not just a bathroom break. Some people have mentioned getting a snack as a good reason to leave and then return to the line. Others might consider a smoke break to be a perfectly reasonable action. There are endless rationalizations. IMO, once you have left the line, you have given up your place. If you wish to return to the line you may do so, at the end.

 

[Invero]

You do have a valid point. The pilot would have no clue about the amount of "cargo" (as I call it) he is carrying. I did not have an issue with the "please slide over" issue either. The monorail announcement doesn't do enough justice about it unfortunately. However, just having someone at the station look inside the monorail as it goes by could help. When we watch the monorail go by, I am very observant of the amount of people in each car that goes by. Something like this could greatly reduce the odds involving the overcrowding issue during the busy times.

Unfortunetly, that's not possible. The cast member needs to be near the guests in line, not all the way down at the end of the station. Not to mention, when the train comes in, it comes in at 15mph. Doesn't sound fast, but it can be if you're trying to look into the train.

 

[niteobsrvr]

I have seen it all. Especially as it relates to transportation and theme parks.

Needless to say, it is also thee guests who think they are entitled to something who make up quite a bit of the patronage at Disney. They are also the ones that get surveyed by marketing a lot I bet.

When you think about that, you understand why things ahve changed, not just at Disney, but society in general.

 

[Nicole]

I'm curious as to why they stop running the monorails an hour after park close regardless of how many people are in line. Maybe they run the monorails longer on extremely busy days, but in August when we were there (relatively slow pre-Frances days) we got to the monorail station and it was still pretty crowded and they closed the express monorail so everyone had to pack into the resort line. It just seemed odd - though it's most likely a staffing issue.

 

[Invero]

They close it one hour after the park closes, or whenever the walkup line dwindles down until it's a slow crawl. (Which typically is one hour)

The thing is this... Express trains arrive into the station every 3-4 minutes. Resort trains arrive into the station every 8-10 minutes. (this includes station dwell time) Because guests are waiting 2-3x longer, more guests build up. Also, because the station is not being gate loaded, it appears as if there's a huge line when there really isnt.

 

[tigger248]

I will, however, make a LOUD since remark about them, that everyone in line is sure to hear. :lol:

That sounds like something I'd do! It's funny when I video tape shows because I tend to make comments about rude people (like those who try to get up and leave half way through Fantasmic or a fireworks show to be the first ones out). On my video tape of Wishes, some huge family/group tried to leave before it was over and missed the curb, nearly knocking me over. I'm impressed that the camera stayed remarkably still, considering. I'm also impressed that I didn't say any "daddy" words. :zipit:

People that fight tend to have low self esteem. Mac users and Nascar fans top the list.

But I'm a NASCAR fan... :lookaroun

In 1998, my mom's side of the family (11 of us) were in the Magic Kingdom siting on the curb waiting for SpectroMagic. All of a sudden this guy with a stroller starts to push up onto the curb, and he somehow got my little cousin stuck up in the stroller. It was scratching her all up, and she was crying. We tried to tell him that there was a ramp right on the side of us, but he didn't understand English. (So, that makes this a fight/stroller/foreigner story.) Finally, my aunt grabbed the stroller and freed my cousin. My cousin's dad was furious and about to jump one of the people in the man's party. There was also a Canadian hockey player sitting next to my dad, and he told my father that he would have had our backs if something would have happened.

I've had similar experiences more than once. I really hate when you line up for a parade early to get a good viewing spot and some big family with a stroller pull up as it's getting ready to start and try to push you out of the way. I had this happen both for Spectromagic and for SADCT. The Spectromagic one was by far worse, as there were some kinda harsh words exchanged between the stroller family and the family they tried to give the boot to (it was right next to us, and took some of our space too). The people who had been waiting had no kids, just a couple, who had been there for like an hour. This family came and stopped right in front of them arguing that their kids had to be able to see. It was a sad situation (they should have maybe thought about that when they made the choice to go on that one last ride...). The parents got very defensive, dropping F-bombs and everything. This offended the other families because they didn't appreciate their children being exposed to this either. It was a mess!

Then there are the people who try to sit like a group of 20 in the wheelchair section and then refuse to move so other wheelchair guests and their families can fit... :zipit: Our family of four has been split up before in these kinds of situations.

 

[makscopes]

Hall of Presidents Brawl

Just before the election, many verbal and even physical fights have broken out in The Hall of Presidents. I witnessed 3 of them.

Milton

 

[Woody13]

But I'm a NASCAR fan... :lookaroun

Yes, you're a NASCAR fan....with a good sense of humor! :kiss: As soon as we can get the Mac people to laugh at themselves (like the rest of us do) then the world will be a better place. :lol: :wave:

 

[maxime29]

Just before the election, many verbal and even physical fights have broken out in The Hall of Presidents. I witnessed 3 of them.

Milton

Surprisingly, this is the first place I would expect some argument. I've seen nothing but good spirits going into the show. Most people even clapped during the president introduction.

 

[tigger248]

Surprisingly, this is the first place I would expect some argument. I've seen nothing but good spirits going into the show. Most people even clapped during the president introduction.

That's the same reaction that I've seen. Though, I was last there just after the election on November 11. It is possible that things may have been different before the election took place.

 

[DDuckFan130]

A big thing I always notice is when one person gets in line and holds it for 6 or more other people. Rather than telling that one person to come back with them, they have to cut across several others. I know that Disney does have a rule about that, but I wish it was more enforced.

The thing about the monorail I think the CMs is in part to blame. The CMs operating the monorail stations should realize if the monorail is full, then there is no need to let more in. Case in point: During our trip this December (I forget which day), the monorail was full to capacity leaving MK (This was during the early afternoon). When we stopped at Contemporary, there was a long line waiting there for people to get on. They kept putting people on, but only half of them could get on the monorail. The driver had to announce people to move to the other side to let more in. After waiting for 5 minutes, they came to realize they couldn't fit anymore on the train. While there were no fights that I noticed, this could be a possible instigator of a guest's frustration that could break out into something worse.

I'm on the other end of what you're complaining about :lol:. What I mean is, many times our party will get separated and maybe 2 of us will be up front with the rest of us straggling behind. Sometimes people will realize what's going on and LET us cut. However, most of the time we make the two in the front come back and join us, because I know of the "faces." :lol:

Oh yeah, last time we were there, we took the Ferryboat back to the TTC. My dad and brother were in front of us, and I don't know why, but when they got to the end of the line, they walked in front of some people. This lady made the ugliest face and out loud expressed her disgust about what my brother and dad did. My mom, sister and I were ashamed, but I thought the lady was being a tad on the witch side. I remarked out loud how some people need to "chill out," and her two teenage sons heard me. Don't really care though. We were all in the same area and we all got on the same ferryboat. It's a big ferryboat...relax!

 

[diddy_mouse]

we had an odd experience while waiting for the ferryboat one night...

my Love and i decided to take the ferryboat since it was a nice night and we hadn't taken it yet. as we stood there, the crowd was growing, and growing behind us (we were right up by the gate for one of the boats). strange thing was, the captain of the boat was just standing on the deck...staring at all of us. meanwhile, two other boats came and went from the dock. my Love and i decided to wait just a little while longer, curious to see if the guy was going to let us on the boat...no such luck. we shrugged and followed the heard onto the ferry that was pulling into the dock. apparently the boat we were waiting for didn't leave the dock the entire night. my question is...why was the captain just standing there?

 

[disneyfamily]

Just a guess, but maybe it broke down and he was keeping people out of it.

 

[MonoRon]

When I used to work in the rails the one thing that would start a fight 80% of the time, Strollers. When boarding the monorail no one wanted to fold it so they would ram in the car, hitting numerous tired people. Someone would yell at them and then a angry family would wait for the next monorail.