Mystery Project at Epcot

G00fyDad

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I've honestly never thought about it this in depth.....but you're right. You're supposed to be hang-gliding, but not one bit of the show building or pre-show elude to that. It looks like an airplane hanger. Patrick is dressed like an airplane pilot. Everything resembles an airport. I'll admit that I've never been hang gliding, but I'm pretty sure that's not how it starts :)

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OSUPhantom

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Well, my personal opinion is Soarin' has no business in Epcot or Future World, but that's beside the point. I'm talking about Soarin' as an attraction on the whole, with a show building and theming that's not really complete.

I will have to respectfully disagree. I think Soarin is a perfect match for the kind of wonder the Epcot seeks to show off. It could use a new film to show off more than California for I think it's fine with where it is. It some off the beauty of the land and all the different kind of landscapes and environments.
 

HMF

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I will have to respectfully disagree. I think Soarin is a perfect match for the kind of wonder the Epcot seeks to show off. It could use a new film to show off more than California for I think it's fine with where it is. It some off the beauty of the land and all the different kind of landscapes and environments.
I agree that the Soarin' Concept fits Epcot, However it should not just be a clone of the California film in a park that is supposed to have a global theme.
 

jt04

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I agree that the Soarin' Concept fits Epcot, However it should not just be a clone of the California film in a park that is supposed to have a global theme.

Perhaps they could play up the possibility that your flight is controlled by automation in any new film. That way it could fit both Future World and World Showcase themes.

Winner! :)
 

Goofyernmost

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Soarin' = a hugely popular attraction (at Epcot anyway) that is so flawed it shouldn't work. But it does.

Hype feeding the mediocrity?
Soarin is an experience not a story. How would one ever come up with a story for it. A story would require a connected beginning, middle and end. Any suggestions as to how it could be a story and don't say they are searching for Elephant poachers. Mission Space is more of an experience as well. It does have a story (getting to Mars) but it is on pretty shaky ground and to be complete they cannot leave you stranded on the Red Planet unless, of course, your job is to save Big Red, from poachers. :p P.S. Same for the current Test Track.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Soarin' would've been an awesome C/D ticket for a new WS country. :)

Circlevision movies are a bit past their prime. 3D is standard movie theater nowadays. A hangglider simulation is perfect.
 

George

Liker of Things
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Soarin' would've been an awesome C/D ticket for a new WS country. :)

Circlevision movies are a bit past their prime. 3D is standard movie theater nowadays. A hangglider simulation is perfect.

Italy is a beautiful country, mountains, beaches, vineyards, volcanoes and it is an under-developed pavilion at the moment. I doubt they're ever building Switzerland and giving us the Matterhorn anyhoo....
 

The Empress Lilly

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Soarin' = a hugely popular attraction (at Epcot anyway) that is so flawed it shouldn't work. But it does.

Hype feeding the mediocrity?
It is my impression that Soarin' is genuinely popular with the general public.

An entirely anecdotal impression, of course. But a pretty strong one, if I judge the excitement and oohs and aahs correctly. People really, truly love this thing.

Not so in DCA however. Which shows that there is a large influence of particular audience, in-park location, presentation, hype that makes up an attraction's popularity. For one, it is also my distinct impression that lines create lines - 'there are always long lines, therefore it must be good'. And the reverse (poor overlooked Horizons!)
 

George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
It is my impression that Soarin' is genuinely popular with the general public.

An entirely anecdotal impression, of course. But a pretty strong one, if I judge the excitement and oohs and aahs correctly. People really, truly love this thing.

Not so in DCA however. Which shows that there is a large influence of particular audience, in-park location, presentation, hype that makes up an attraction's popularity. For one, it is also my distinct impression that lines create lines - 'there are always long lines, therefore it must be good'. And the reverse (poor overlooked Horizons!)

There is also a higher ride density at DCA than any Florida park, with the possible exception of MK and that was before Carsland.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Italy is a beautiful country, mountains, beaches, vineyards, volcanoes and it is an under-developed pavilion at the moment. I doubt they're ever building Switzerland and giving us the Matterhorn anyhoo....
Italy at EPCOT has always been a frustration of mine. Could there possibly be a more beautiful country? At least, could there possibly be one that is simply MADE for WS?

And all we ever got were three buildings and a pizzeria. The new restaurant still barely changes any of that.

And what is there is so tantalisingly pretty! Goodness me, standing on the lagoon, looking at the campanile, the Venetian boats...the flowers...wow...real magic.
 

The Empress Lilly

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There is also a higher ride density at DCA than any Florida park, with the possible exception of MK and that was before Carsland.
Yes! And perhaps the reverse holds even more explanatory power: there really isn't all that much to do in FW anymore. If you are an average family with kids, how much fun stuff is there in FW? I'd be standing in line for Soarin' too.
 

articos

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Shrek 3D?

(4-D) Never been in it, but from what I know, also a dressed up attraction that could play a regional park. It's elevated by the factor of having an extremely popular mainstream IP to play off of, but without that, I'd say the same thing, although it isn't the base form of this type of attraction - it incorporates motion seats and effects in the house, although not to the level of DM.

Edit: Also, it was/is actually in various regional parks besides the Universal Parks.
 

Goofyernmost

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And, on opening, there wasn't much to create a splash at DCA, so Soarin' it was. For everyone.
Only rode Soarin, DCA, once in 2005 and it was the middle of the day and I walked on. There were myself and six other people. In WDW, well you know, it's pretty popular. I cannot begin to count all the people that make it a must see, multiple times. (one of the reasons that lines are so long, BTW)
 

articos

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Only rode Soarin, DCA, once in 2005 and it was the middle of the day and I walked on. There were myself and six other people. In WDW, well you know, it's pretty popular. I cannot begin to count all the people that make it a must see, multiple times. (one of the reasons that lines are so long, BTW)
Yeah, people do like it in CA too. I enjoy the ride, as it's a nice placid 'hang' (edit: with some adrenaline moments properly spaced in there - the lift-off, the golf ball, the river sequence), but I equate it to the swings at a Coney Island type fair - they're fun to do, but there's really not a lot to it. I can't equate Soarin' to something like HM or Splash or Tower or Horizons. Just totally different types of attractions to me.
 

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