willtravel
Well-Known Member
Do not understand. I buy my tickets at AAA and get a little savings. Not thru Disney.
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flynnibus
Premium Member
Yes, but AAA didn't get your tickets from out of thin air.. they get them from Disney
When they sell tickets they could trigger something in Disney's system to mail them to you. Or, they could setup to allow you to register your tickets online and then get the bands mailed to you, etc.It's really not much different than Disney doing it themselves.. except someone needs to link the ticket media to your profile.
Rob562
Well-Known Member
Going back to fill in a few things from my previous posts about my friend's "managed by me" profile on My DIsney Experience...
When I originally linked his now-expired park ticket to his profile, I used the serial number off the back of his RFID park ticket. Now when go into his profile, down at the bottom are separate options for "Scott's MagicBands and Cards" and "Scott's Tickets & Passes".
When I click on MagicBands and Cards, it comes up with a single Card, the one with the serial number I'd entered.
When I click on Tickets & Passes and then choose "View Past Tickets and Passes" it lists his "6-Day Magic Your Way Base Ticket - Groups & Conventions" ticket from our trip.
So it took the ticket info from the card and then separated the ticket from the card, filing them under separate headings.
I think all this at least semi confirms some of my earlier suppositions:
-Once they're linked to a MDE profile, tickets will become a function of your profile, rather than the other way around. The profile keeps the two separate and exists as a way to link the Band with the ticket. (Going farther, taking earlier reports of being able to link multiple tickets to your account, it's possible that if you have multiple MYW tickets, you can link them all together and choose while one is the currently "active" one on your account. Or perhaps set it up in an order of preference, so that you use up days on Ticket A first, then Ticket B, etc)
-It also looks like Groups and Convention tickets will be able to use MDE and thus FP+, it's just unclear as to exactly when they can start.
One question I have going forward... Since FP+ appears to be a function of your online profile and not of the ticket, I wonder if you'll be able to go in and make FP+ reservations even if you don't have a ticket yet. That would give the most flexibility to Guests, and then when you got down there you could buy your ticket, link it to your MDE profile, and voila, you have access to your FP+ reservations.
The one downside to this is that you could conceivably then have people making FP+ reservations that they have no intention of actually using.
-Rob
When I originally linked his now-expired park ticket to his profile, I used the serial number off the back of his RFID park ticket. Now when go into his profile, down at the bottom are separate options for "Scott's MagicBands and Cards" and "Scott's Tickets & Passes".
When I click on MagicBands and Cards, it comes up with a single Card, the one with the serial number I'd entered.
When I click on Tickets & Passes and then choose "View Past Tickets and Passes" it lists his "6-Day Magic Your Way Base Ticket - Groups & Conventions" ticket from our trip.
So it took the ticket info from the card and then separated the ticket from the card, filing them under separate headings.
I think all this at least semi confirms some of my earlier suppositions:
-Once they're linked to a MDE profile, tickets will become a function of your profile, rather than the other way around. The profile keeps the two separate and exists as a way to link the Band with the ticket. (Going farther, taking earlier reports of being able to link multiple tickets to your account, it's possible that if you have multiple MYW tickets, you can link them all together and choose while one is the currently "active" one on your account. Or perhaps set it up in an order of preference, so that you use up days on Ticket A first, then Ticket B, etc)
-It also looks like Groups and Convention tickets will be able to use MDE and thus FP+, it's just unclear as to exactly when they can start.
One question I have going forward... Since FP+ appears to be a function of your online profile and not of the ticket, I wonder if you'll be able to go in and make FP+ reservations even if you don't have a ticket yet. That would give the most flexibility to Guests, and then when you got down there you could buy your ticket, link it to your MDE profile, and voila, you have access to your FP+ reservations.
The one downside to this is that you could conceivably then have people making FP+ reservations that they have no intention of actually using.
-Rob
flynnibus
Premium Member
This is the scenario I've been speculating they will follow. Tickets are just your gate admission.. they are transient... its your profile that is static and permanent. It is the root. And that allowing FP+ reservations before you have a ticket is the best pro/con scenario since there are sooo many scenarios where a guest will not have their final, valid ticket before they are onsite.
And tickets can't be the hub of your FP+ activity because your tickets have a high probability of being replaced, swapped out, upgraded, etc.
Your ticket really is two concepts
1 - an entitlement to services (admission)
2 - a physical token you use
The second is optional, as it can be replaced by the band. The first is a floating property that is purchased via the ticket, but once you have that entitlement, it's possible to separate it from the original ticket (making the original ticket null and just a piece of paper).
Once your online profile is established and persistent.. it's possible to move to an 'all digital' form of entitlement and currency. Imagine just buying admissions and having them transferred directly to your profile... no need for a ticket at all! Know what that means?? No more secondary ticket selling.
ToyStoryMiss
Well-Known Member
Question...
Do they still have paper FP's out currently?
I was to lazy to go and read the other 683 messages.
This royally screws everyone up. Since I have a weird feeling (well, everyone's feeling this) that the FP+ is gonna bomb terribly, I don't want to go and choose which QS restaurant we have to eat it each day!
So can someone please tell me if the paper tickets are still there? Please?
Do they still have paper FP's out currently?
I was to lazy to go and read the other 683 messages.
This royally screws everyone up. Since I have a weird feeling (well, everyone's feeling this) that the FP+ is gonna bomb terribly, I don't want to go and choose which QS restaurant we have to eat it each day!
So can someone please tell me if the paper tickets are still there? Please?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
It is currently available because FastPass+ is still in testing. It will go away when FastPass+ is fully rolled out. And there is no date yet for when that will happen.Question...
Do they still have paper FP's out currently?
I was to lazy to go and read the other 683 messages.
This royally screws everyone up. Since I have a weird feeling (well, everyone's feeling this) that the FP+ is gonna bomb terribly, I don't want to go and choose which QS restaurant we have to eat it each day!
So can someone please tell me if the paper tickets are still there? Please?
BigThunderMatt
Well-Known Member
As of right now, no. Unless you have an active (read: days still remaining) ticket linked to the account, you cannot make FP+ bookings in advance, even if you are staying on property.
BigThunderMatt
Well-Known Member
I would imagine they will have a special process in place for group bookings. Just like they already have group processes in place for ticket sales and rooms.
ToyStoryMiss
Well-Known Member
Oh thank goodness. I wouldn't want to have to deal with it in September when we go.
Thank you for answering my question!
mickeysaver
Well-Known Member
Forgive me please, but in lieu of reading this monster thread, what happens to paper FP's for those who are AP holders or just visiting the park for one day? Are FP's becoming a thing that can only be accessed by those who book a WDW vacation package with the RFID KTTW cards or bands?
Rob562
Well-Known Member
Paper FastPasses will be going away when FP+ rolls out. All ticketholders, including APs, will be able to choose three FP+ selections per day. It's not just those staying at Disney resorts.
AP holders will get MagicBands, but a MagicBand is not required to use FP+. You just need an RFID-enabled card, which is what day guests will have. And AP holders should be able to make FP+ choices as far in advance as resort guests.
The one thing that remains unclear (though it's looking like they won't be able to) is what options you have if you're a day guest and you want to make FP+ selections *before* you arrive but you haven't bought your ticket yet.
-Rob
RNjan1
New Member
No....it's not that you can only visit one park a day with fast passes....you can only USE your 3 fast passes in one park per day. I never did jump park to park to use one fast pass per park. You can still go park to park and stand in conventional lines....but only use 3 fast passes at one park per day. I hope it helps. I am glad because I used to go get a fast pass for Soarin...walk all over Epcot, be exhausted clear over by Test Track, and have to walk all the way back to Soarin to use my fast pass at a certain time. This way, you don't have to walk anywhere to get your fast pass.
RNjan1
New Member
only 3....it has to be for the same park. So, if you get a FP+ at Magic Kingdom on Space Mountain, you can only have 2 more FP+ at Magic Kingdom (for that day). So, then lets say you pick Splash Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. Then you're done with your 3 fast passes. You can't get a FP for Space Mountain at MK...then Test Track at Epcot...then Rockn Roller Coaster at HS. Have to be used at the same park. Now, the next morning when you get up you can go to a different park and use 3 FP+.
But, if you have park hopper option, you can always go to other parks in the same day....but you'll just have to stand in the conventional lines like everyone else. I hope this helps.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Nobody knows.
Skippy's Pal
Well-Known Member
only 3....it has to be for the same park. So, if you get a FP+ at Magic Kingdom on Space Mountain, you can only have 2 more FP+ at Magic Kingdom (for that day). So, then lets say you pick Splash Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. Then you're done with your 3 fast passes. You can't get a FP for Space Mountain at MK...then Test Track at Epcot...then Rockn Roller Coaster at HS. Have to be used at the same park. Now, the next morning when you get up you can go to a different park and use 3 FP+.
But, if you have park hopper option, you can always go to other parks in the same day....but you'll just have to stand in the conventional lines like everyone else. I hope this helps.
This is certainly correct as things currently stand. However, with Mickey being so money-hungry these days, I find myself wondering if there might be something like "Park Hopper +" where, for a "modest" upcharge, FP+'s might indeed become available in the second park. This is the same line of thinking that speculates whether additional FP+'s (beyond the 3) might be made available to guests at Deluxe resorts, club level, etc. It would seem Iger is going to need the additional money to offset the bomb that Lone Ranger appears to have become.
Alektronic
Well-Known Member
I heard when they finally get all the turnstiles converted over to the new system then they will then convert the FP machines to FP+
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Sourin and TSM frequently run out of fast passes early, but that is not the case for many of the other rides.No....it's not that you can only visit one park a day with fast passes....you can only USE your 3 fast passes in one park per day. I never did jump park to park to use one fast pass per park. You can still go park to park and stand in conventional lines....but only use 3 fast passes at one park per day. I hope it helps. I am glad because I used to go get a fast pass for Soarin...walk all over Epcot, be exhausted clear over by Test Track, and have to walk all the way back to Soarin to use my fast pass at a certain time. This way, you don't have to walk anywhere to get your fast pass.
So, an example would be where we decide to do a split day, lets say HS and EP. I am now either locked into getting FPs for Star Tours, RNR and ToT, or Epcot specific fast passes.
However, I would not be able to go FP a few rides at HS and then head over to Epcot and FP Test Track or Mission Space.
At least not if they are planning to stay hard and fast with eliminating the current system and forcing single park FP choices.
FP's @ only one park per day to me is the one sore point that I have so far with the whole "+" system. We pretty much park hop each and ever day while @ The World.
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
Some time ago, WDW implemented a $10/person credit card charge for anyone not showing up for their ADR.
If FP+ selections are not tied to tickets, do you think Disney will do something to limit potential FP+ selection abuse?