My Magic + details ...

[COProgressFan]

The irony in this is the argument was always made that so many guests didn't understand Fastpass...

What I don't get yet is...

So what if you don't get/understand/use FP+... what's the consequence of this? For three more things you need to wait in line instead?

The argument has already been made for ages that so many people didn't understand FP so they didn't use it.. ok.. so what has changed now? They still won't use it!

That's true, but FP+ is infinitely more complicated than simply walking to a kiosk, putting in your ticket, and getting a return time. There are many more people who will be confused or overwhelmed with the new system and its multitude of rules, procedures, etc. Heck, it's a complicated mess for most of us on the boards and we're "insiders" to this whole thing.

 

[bkgrim]

Send them to Six Flags Over Georgia.

I, for one, am ecstatic that groups will no longer be able to get 175 fastpasses at the same time.

We never stand in line with our kids and get 175 fast passes. Our students turn in their room keys and keep their park tickets for their own fast passes

As stated somewhere, you must use your magic band for fast passes and you must use my Disney experience and you must be 18 to sign up for this. Will the groups not be able to use fast passes because of this?

 

[ddrongowski]

We never stand in line with our kids and get 175 fast passes. Our students turn in their room keys and keep their park tickets for their own fast passes

As stated somewhere, you must use your magic band for fast passes and you must use my Disney experience and you must be 18 to sign up for this. Will the groups not be able to use fast passes because of this?

Call WDW at (407) 939-5277 and ask them. Best thing to do, I already called and posted the answers they gave me. They actually gave me a private number and a specific CM to talk to, and he said to keep his name and number in case I have anymore questions. Or send an email to them with your contact information.

 

[flynnibus]

That's true, but FP+ is infinitely more complicated than simply walking to a kiosk, putting in your ticket, and getting a return time. There are many more people who will be confused or overwhelmed with the new system and its multitude of rules, procedures, etc. Heck, it's a complicated mess for most of us on the boards and we're "insiders" to this whole thing.

Ok.. but the point still stands. If these people don't use it.. or fail to be able to... does their vacation come crashing down? It the whole thing ruined?

There are countless things Disney offers that are never utlized by the vast majority of people. Do they miss out? Yup.. did it ruin their vacation because of it? Nope.

As long as this '3 per day' limit is in there.. I'm having a hard time believing FP+ is going to make or break your vacation.

 

[CTennant]

I actually just had a convo w/ both Ticket Servies & IT about group tickets and MDE/FP+. I was told by both that currently no group tickets are able to be linked to MDE. This also means, at the moment, no group ticket holders will be able to use FP+. I did ask if this was going to change and if so, when...and they had no answer. We have group tickets for December & I'm somewhat annoyed I can't utilize MDE for the ticket section. I realize this isn't a huge deal but I like to keep all my info in the app for accessibility purposes. Not to mention IF, and that is a huge IF, FP+ is rolled out by then and the change isn't made to include group tickets by our trip we won't be able to do anything with it.

 

[Rob562]

I actually just had a convo w/ both Ticket Servies & IT about group tickets and MDE/FP+. I was told by both that currently no group tickets are able to be linked to MDE. This also means, at the moment, no group ticket holders will be able to use FP+. I did ask if this was going to change and if so, when...and they had no answer. We have group tickets for December & I'm somewhat annoyed I can't utilize MDE for the ticket section. I realize this isn't a huge deal but I like to keep all my info in the app for accessibility purposes. Not to mention IF, and that is a huge IF, FP+ is rolled out by then and the change isn't made to include group tickets by our trip we won't be able to do anything with it.

Months ago I'd created a "managed by me" profile for my friend Scott in the unlikely event that FP+ rolled out before our trip at the end of May. (Which obviously FP+ didn't roll out) He'd bought a group/convention ticket for his admission as part of the group we were down there with. I had my AP.

After we got home, the mobile app added the ability to link your park tickets to your profile. I was able to link my still-valid AP to my profile, and for the heck of it I asked my friend for the numbers off the back of the RFID ticket. Put it into the app and it accepted it, though it shows under "past tickets" because it's now expired. But it properly shows as "Convention Ticket" in the app. (Don't have my phone on me, so I'll check for the exact phrasing in a little while)

In a related question: Has anyone linked a non-AP ticket to their MDE account yet? Does the app show how many days/entitlements are left on your ticket?

-Rob

 

[dreamfinder]

We never stand in line with our kids and get 175 fast passes. Our students turn in their room keys and keep their park tickets for their own fast passes

As stated somewhere, you must use your magic band for fast passes and you must use my Disney experience and you must be 18 to sign up for this. Will the groups not be able to use fast passes because of this?

You don't need to use the Magic Band for FP+. You need to use RFID enabled ticket media. So either a Magic Band, a ticket with RFID in it, or a RFID enabled KTTW card. So in your situation, you would need to request that all of your students be issued KTTW instead of Magic Bands, possibly causing them to miss out on some of the NextGen stuff (Whatever that happens to be outside of Mickey saying your name...). They would have to use the tickets with RFID in them, and you could then collect the KTTW back just like you do now.

 

[mickeysbrother]

You don't need to use the Magic Band for FP+. You need to use RFID enabled ticket media. So either a Magic Band, a ticket with RFID in it, or a RFID enabled KTTW card. So in your situation, you would need to request that all of your students be issued KTTW instead of Magic Bands, possibly causing them to miss out on some of the NextGen stuff (Whatever that happens to be outside of Mickey saying your name...). They would have to use the tickets with RFID in them, and you could then collect the KTTW back just like you do now.

WHAT????

 

[CTennant]

Months ago I'd created a "managed by me" profile for my friend Scott in the unlikely event that FP+ rolled out before our trip at the end of May. (Which obviously FP+ didn't roll out) He'd bought a group/convention ticket for his admission as part of the group we were down there with. I had my AP.

After we got home, the mobile app added the ability to link your park tickets to your profile. I was able to link my still-valid AP to my profile, and for the heck of it I asked my friend for the numbers off the back of the RFID ticket. Put it into the app and it accepted it, though it shows under "past tickets" because it's now expired. But it properly shows as "Convention Ticket" in the app. (Don't have my phone on me, so I'll check for the exact phrasing in a little while)

In a related question: Has anyone linked a non-AP ticket to their MDE account yet? Does the app show how many days/entitlements are left on your ticket?

-Rob

They did say once we arrived we could try and add the group ticket #s to MDE but that still wouldn't help much with the FP+ 60 day thing. I'm not sure what the chances are it will even be ready to use by early December but if it is I would at least like to be able to try it our before we get there.

And good ? about the usage being shown. I've had clients link to MDE but not sure about what info it shows them.

 

[COProgressFan]

Ok.. but the point still stands. If these people don't use it.. or fail to be able to... does their vacation come crashing down? It the whole thing ruined?

There are countless things Disney offers that are never utlized by the vast majority of people. Do they miss out? Yup.. did it ruin their vacation because of it? Nope.

As long as this '3 per day' limit is in there.. I'm having a hard time believing FP+ is going to make or break your vacation.

I don't think it will make or break your vacation. But the whole process is certainly not many people's idea of a vacation. It can certainly may have more negative impacts on nonplanners than the current system does.

They're taking something that is only slightly complicated to the uninitiated (Fastpass) and turning it into something that is very complicated (FP+).

 

[jeff59rt]

I've been thinking a lot about the DVC peeps..How do DVC owners at WDW feel about the FP+? If you had known FP+ was coming and the full details, would those details have changed your mind about buying DVC?

We can always stay somewhere else, we have used ours all over the country....also when the universal studios magic band bus starts rolling we can get right on board!

 

[pjammer]

I would think Quick Picks would be assigned by the computer when a person clicked the Pick For Me button not by CMs. One could then change or edit the FP+s at 60 days out. It does raise an interesting question of when Quick Picks are assigned, if they do assign them before the 60 day window that reduces the numbers in the pool at sixty days for those who choose to pick for themselves but probably not to any real degree.

I'm pretty sure that the reason for the 60 day window is because it matches when you can do online check in to your resort. So when you go and do the online check in I'm would assume an extra button appear to make quick picks for FP. It would be part of the check in. I doubt Disney would do it automatically

 

[wdw_nerd]

I just logged into my account on the disney world website (not the app) to make some dining reservations for our Sept. trip and I noticed a new heading called 'Tickets and Passes'. I then noticed underneath that heading it says:

Don't see your tickets?You may have to link them to your account. If you do not have one of the new admission cards or a MagicBand, be sure to bring your paper ticket to use for park admission.

My DH knows nothing about Magic Bands or FP+ saw this and said "what the $%*@ is that?" lol I just don't understand why they are putting out tidbits of info here and there butnot fully saying what the deal is or when it will be implemented. It's confusing.

 

[NX2I85]

For all the info and speculation out there about FP+, I find it stunning that Disney would discourage guests from buying park hoppers.

 

[pjammer]

For all the info and speculation out there about FP+, I find it stunning that Disney would discourage guests from buying park hoppers.

I think it actually makes park hopping better. Parks like Epcot and studios that if you try to do in the evening all the good FPs are gone but now you will know if you have them or not. Plus with the new app ( the old one you had to be in the park to see wait times) you can hop on and see what parks are busy and choose where to go next if you want to be flexible if you choose to do FPs in that park in the am then go elsewhere. There has been plenty of times I've walked into a park and spent less than an hour because its so busy. Now I can just look at the app before I choose.

 

[dreamfinder]

WHAT????

Basically FP+ doesn't require the Magic Band. FP+ will also work with other ticket media (The Magic Band is being used as a form of ticket media, just like how a plastic card {KTTW} or the old tyvek paper tickets). And if you re-read the originally posted terms, when @WDW1974 started talking about replacement costs for lost bands, one of the options was simply to get a RFID enabled card. The Magic Band is not (nor do I think it ever will be) required. They will have an option for people who cannot or do not want to use the band. It may not offer exactly the same services (as mentioned with some of the Magic Band exclusive experiences, as of yet unknown) but it will still work for park entry, and FP+ validation.

 

[willtravel]

I wonder how this will impact AAA tickets where I buy my park tickets? Or will they have magic bands? I feel sorry for guest services at WDW....

 

[mickeysbrother]

Basically FP+ doesn't require the Magic Band. FP+ will also work with other ticket media (The Magic Band is being used as a form of ticket media, just like how a plastic card {KTTW} or the old tyvek paper tickets). And if you re-read the originally posted terms, when @WDW1974 started talking about replacement costs for lost bands, one of the options was simply to get a RFID enabled card. The Magic Band is not (nor do I think it ever will be) required. They will have an option for people who cannot or do not want to use the band. It may not offer exactly the same services (as mentioned with some of the Magic Band exclusive experiences, as of yet unknown) but it will still work for park entry, and FP+ validation.

AHHHHHHHH!!!

 

[flynnibus]

I wonder how this will impact AAA tickets where I buy my park tickets? Or will they have magic bands? I feel sorry for guest services at WDW....

No reason Disney could not mail them to you... Same as when you buy it from Disney.

 

[Rob562]

Basically FP+ doesn't require the Magic Band. FP+ will also work with other ticket media (The Magic Band is being used as a form of ticket media, just like how a plastic card {KTTW} or the old tyvek paper tickets). And if you re-read the originally posted terms, when @WDW1974 started talking about replacement costs for lost bands, one of the options was simply to get a RFID enabled card. The Magic Band is not (nor do I think it ever will be) required. They will have an option for people who cannot or do not want to use the band. It may not offer exactly the same services (as mentioned with some of the Magic Band exclusive experiences, as of yet unknown) but it will still work for park entry, and FP+ validation.

Also, it seems that almost everything in this whole MM+ is a function of your MDE account and *not* necessarily a function of your particular ticket or MagicBand. Making a dining reservation and adding people to it (so that it shows up in the app on their phone) is a function of that person's profile, whether it's their own or a "managed by" profile. When you log in and enter your ticket info, you're linking that ticket to your account. I presume the same would hold true with your room keys.
So every time you're waving your RFID ticket in the parks, all it does is give the reader a way of referencing your MDE account. That way you can wave your room key or your MagicBand and they'd both operate the same.
Looking down the line, after a couple trips staying at Disney resorts, you could choose a different color Band each trip, bring them all and be able to coordinate with what you're wearing, and because each is just a pointer back to your account, it wouldn't matter which one you were wearing that day.

(Though I will admit that some of this is speculation/supposition based on the currently-available info and functions of the app and MDE website...)

So, going back to the question about school groups, it's foreseeable that each kid can make their own MDE account (or have each group leader create a "managed by" account for each kid in their group) and then once you get down there you'd be able to link the kid's ticket to their already-existing MDE profile.

-Rob