JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Sorry DMan, they ARE abolishing the original FastPass. For good.
Now, how do you feel about us whiners? C'mon over, we'll make room.
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Now, how do you feel about us whiners? C'mon over, we'll make room.
PhotoDave219
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bubbles1812
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I think this is one of the things that most bugs me about the system (besides the measley 3 they will let people have). Newbies will get confused by an over complicated systems... Returnees will get frustrated by the ability to get FPs for the things that are really necessary. The "tiers" and/or groupings have not impressed me at all. I suppose it is great for Disney's crowd control theory as it is blatantly obvious where Disney wants to shunt the crowds... Though honestly with only 3 FPs per person I don't see them being that successful with crowd control either
rael ramone
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But for the privilege of 'kinda-sorta' guaranteeing your TSMM ride*:
You will have 1 *good* FP+ per day and 2 for less popular and/or high capacity rides that don't need it
You'll have artificially longer lines for everything else.
You'll be going to parks that have had 2 billion spent on this stuff that has a shareholder base that doesn't want them to spend on the parks, so they'll make up for it in other ways (like even less maintenance, making new renovations much more 'value engineered', and far less spent on actual infrastructure)
You'll have shorter park hours as a whole, and some attractions shuttered even longer.#
And the temperment of your fellow guests will certainly be much, much less 'magical'.
And for that, you and your under 13 year old children will get hammered with SPAM...
* - kinda-sorta means if it isn't up and running - it may be far, far too convuluted to allow rainchecks. You'll just get reassigned. (Or perhaps they'll do the airplane model and overbook FP+ for the rides, then reassign 'less magical' guests if the family thats spending 2 full weeks at the Floridian shows up and bumps you because you only are there for 11 days at the Beach Club).
# - if they are in fact considering making some 'experiences' FP+ only, they may go with how they do Disney run TS dining - no reservation means no admittance regardless of how many tables are open and how many staff are standing around doing nothing. maybe rides that don't have a # of FPs given out will be automatically closed.
Hello, new to this board.
I'm still trying to understand what the payback is for the huge dollar investment of My Magic +.
Will this allow more people per day in the parks by spreading out the admissions?
Shouldn't we expect Disney to start charging for more FPs per day? Universal already charges for front of the line access.
This might be the first step toward totally cashless parks. Every transaction would just go thru your wristband which is linked to a debit/credit card. Should save operating costs without having cash drawers all over the place. Some airlines only take plastic on flights for extra purchases.
I'm still trying to understand what the payback is for the huge dollar investment of My Magic +.
Will this allow more people per day in the parks by spreading out the admissions?
Shouldn't we expect Disney to start charging for more FPs per day? Universal already charges for front of the line access.
This might be the first step toward totally cashless parks. Every transaction would just go thru your wristband which is linked to a debit/credit card. Should save operating costs without having cash drawers all over the place. Some airlines only take plastic on flights for extra purchases.
ddrongowski
Well-Known Member
This is incorrect. You get to choose 3 fp+ in only 1 park per day. 3 fp+'s x 1 park = 3 fp's per day, not 3 fp's x 4 parks. It makes a major difference as if you park hop you only get to get FP+'s at 1 of those parks.
ddrongowski
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Here is a catch on that. They limit the amount you can charge. Once you hit that limit you have to go to guest relations or you hotel to get it increased. This happens to us every year. The process from getting into the line at guest relations to being done averages 20 minutes. So yes it is an inconvenience, but how we work around it is to have our CC with us so when it happens we are able to finish our purchase. If I was had to go all the way to guest relations to increase it and then go back to finish the purchase, screw it, I can live without the purchase. Also not everyone has a CC so if Disney makes it a requirement lots of non CC teens will not be making purchases.
baymenxpac
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since we are all knee deep in 29 pages of MM+ specifics, let's take a quick step back.
imagine your friend is planning a WDW trip. they've been...let's say 5 times before. we'll give them a moderate understanding of the lay out of the parks, tickets, etc.
now imagine explaining MM+ to them...
imagine your friend is planning a WDW trip. they've been...let's say 5 times before. we'll give them a moderate understanding of the lay out of the parks, tickets, etc.
now imagine explaining MM+ to them...
RandomPrincess
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This is interesting someone on another Disney board got this response back to an email questioning only being able to get 3 FP per day. I highlighted the important to me part in red....
Dear ?????,
Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World Resort.
We are excited about the enhancements we will be introducing with
MyMagic+ and we are happy to hear that you and your family are excited,
too! At this time we continue to test and enhance the features of
MyMagic+, including Disney FastPass+ service and MagicBands, and look
forward to making these enhancements available to Guests later this
year. Once we have launched the MyMagic+ program Radio Frequency, or
RF, enabled tickets will work in the turnstiles and FASTPASS machines.
Even more exciting is the fact that FASTPASS will be available at more
attractions in the coming months.
Please know you will still have access to our regular Fastpass system
and can opt out or use it in conjunction with the Disney FastPass+.
Please know I do have little ones and this is such a huge time saver.
Unlike the current system you can change your times while in the park so
it makes for more flexibility. Where under the current system once you
get a FastPass you are locked out for 2 hours to receive another.
Thank you for taking a moment to share your thoughts with us. We are
most grateful for your observations and will share them at the
appropriate levels.
If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact
us.
Sincerely,
Keeley Shea Martin
WDW Online Communications
Sounds like you will be able to have regular day of FP and also your 3 prebooked FP+
Dear ?????,
Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World Resort.
We are excited about the enhancements we will be introducing with
MyMagic+ and we are happy to hear that you and your family are excited,
too! At this time we continue to test and enhance the features of
MyMagic+, including Disney FastPass+ service and MagicBands, and look
forward to making these enhancements available to Guests later this
year. Once we have launched the MyMagic+ program Radio Frequency, or
RF, enabled tickets will work in the turnstiles and FASTPASS machines.
Even more exciting is the fact that FASTPASS will be available at more
attractions in the coming months.
Please know you will still have access to our regular Fastpass system
and can opt out or use it in conjunction with the Disney FastPass+.
Please know I do have little ones and this is such a huge time saver.
Unlike the current system you can change your times while in the park so
it makes for more flexibility. Where under the current system once you
get a FastPass you are locked out for 2 hours to receive another.
Thank you for taking a moment to share your thoughts with us. We are
most grateful for your observations and will share them at the
appropriate levels.
If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact
us.
Sincerely,
Keeley Shea Martin
WDW Online Communications
Sounds like you will be able to have regular day of FP and also your 3 prebooked FP+
flynnibus
Premium Member
But is her response trying to answer for your SPECIFIC TRIP you likely mentioned in your mail? Meaning she's kind of blurring the lines... yes you will still have access to paper FP for THAT TRIP.. because like her earlier paragraph says is they are still testing?
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
Could be - her dates are in Jan/Feb 2014.
bubbles1812
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Interesting... And technically true, at least in the near term. Testers have had access to both. And one would assume people will continue to be able to access both... So long as both systems exist. But all indications are that they want to do away with FP regular in the farther future. If they would keep regular FP and use FP+ as a supplement, I would have less problems with it. Her dates are still in the realm where both systems are projected to be running I believe. Last I saw, the earliest all of MM+ is suppose to be up and running is fall to winter 2013 is it not? And that's the earliest... (Apologies if I'm wrong)
The fact that you can "opt out" is also interesting to me. I do think its interesting to see how they are selling it... And I suppose from the point of having little children who may or may not be cooperative at the point it is time to use a FP, there actually might be some advantage. But if plays to do away with regular FP follow thru, I still see far more disadvantages than advantages.
Mawg
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When do you think they will introduce the touring plan? You enter in the parks you will go to each day and the times you want to go, dinning reservations, breaks etc. Then you pick which attractions you are most interested in visiting with rankings (can select the same attraction twice). The computer then gives you a time slot to visit each attraction so that crowds are evenly distributed and the attractions times are grouped to tour you through the parks without backtracking. If an attraction is too busy for any time slot it tells you better luck next time and rank it higher.
bubbles1812
Well-Known Member
And for most likely a very low price too of course...
fillerup
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disney4life2008
Well-Known Member
Well this makes me feel a little better as I will be planning my winter trip for January. So if I can get FP+ and FP I will be a happy camper.
TinkerBelle8878
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I wonder if I could get a reduced rate and extra FP+s per day since I don't have any desire to ride TSM again and don't like roller coasters or Mission Space...yet the stuff I want to go on will be mobbed from all the overflow of the 'big rides'. I want front of the line for those! Imagine the amount of money they could make with that
And those Magic Bands are hideous. They're not even so ugly, they're cute. But I do see a second market for all the leftover Croc charms that were big a few years ago...
And those Magic Bands are hideous. They're not even so ugly, they're cute. But I do see a second market for all the leftover Croc charms that were big a few years ago...
RandomPrincess
Keep Moving Forward
The Crocs charms don't fit the holes in the magic bands are much to small. but they are the exact same thing with a smaller back
I'm married to a CPA and after I read off the 3 FP+ per park/day, he said we will be charged to get more and that sounds like an absolute minimum so each guest is covered.. of course there will be surveys and comments prior to it rolling out as a paid option, but he said it's a goldmine and Disney wants money for it, kinda like UO charging extra for their express pass.
I know you all are probably thinking that is ludicrous and wouldn't happen, but I liken it to the Early Bird Checkin option that Southwest airlines started a few years ago.. at first, a lot were up in arms about it, but now I see many people paying that extra money to utilize that option. And that is what extra FP+s would be, an add-on option.
Just wanted to offer the unpopular, alternative, Disney greedy way of thinking... not trying to offend anyone. After all, it's all about maximizing profit by getting guests on property, staying there and spending all their money in Disney.
I know you all are probably thinking that is ludicrous and wouldn't happen, but I liken it to the Early Bird Checkin option that Southwest airlines started a few years ago.. at first, a lot were up in arms about it, but now I see many people paying that extra money to utilize that option. And that is what extra FP+s would be, an add-on option.
Just wanted to offer the unpopular, alternative, Disney greedy way of thinking... not trying to offend anyone. After all, it's all about maximizing profit by getting guests on property, staying there and spending all their money in Disney.
RSoxNo1
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I ran the #s not long ago, and 3 FP+ a day can pretty much be met for all guests on all days without issue. MK can proabably get up to 5 without issue and the other two parks can get up to 4.I'm married to a CPA and after I read off the 3 FP+ per park/day, he said we will be charged to get more and that sounds like an absolute minimum so each guest is covered.. of course there will be surveys and comments prior to it rolling out as a paid option, but he said it's a goldmine and Disney wants money for it, kinda like UO charging extra for their express pass.
I know you all are probably thinking that is ludicrous and wouldn't happen, but I liken it to the Early Bird Checkin option that Southwest airlines started a few years ago.. at first, a lot were up in arms about it, but now I see many people paying that extra money to utilize that option. And that is what extra FP+s would be, an add-on option.
Just wanted to offer the unpopular, alternative, Disney greedy way of thinking... not trying to offend anyone. After all, it's all about maximizing profit by getting guests on property, staying there and spending all their money in Disney.