Muppet's Great Movie Ride Parody?

dvcnut39

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Original Poster
I recently read a rumor from a pretty reliable source that Disney may be planning on adding a Muppet's version of The Great Movie Ride to Disney-MGM. I figure that with Disney's recent acquisition of The Muppets, that this rumor may have some merit. Does anyone have any additonal info? Thanks in advance.
 

imagineer boy

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I really think that this should go to DCA. DCA needs all the help it can get. They could simply replace the Muppet Vision 3-D there since it doesn't really bring in the crowds.
 

Tom

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Back when Disney first bought the Muppets, there were many threads on this subject. There are indeed rumors that they will expand the Muppet area in MGM, and perhaps build a ride similar to what was described. Try a search on Muppets and you'll be overwhelmed with the info you're looking for :)
 

donsullivan

Premium Member
dvcnut39 said:
I recently read a rumor from a pretty reliable source that Disney may be planning on adding a Muppet's version of The Great Movie Ride to Disney-MGM. I figure that with Disney's recent acquisition of The Muppets, that this rumor may have some merit. Does anyone have any additonal info? Thanks in advance.

That plan for attraction was actually announced many years ago just before Jim Henson's death. At that time Disney was negotiating to acquire the Muppets and there were a number of Muppet related attraction plans announced. That was one of them.

Unfortunately, when Jim Henson died, his son and Michael Eisner had a bit of a falling out which led to the collapse of those talks. Eventually the company was sold to a European group who in my opinion squandered the asset which is part of why Disney was eventually able to acquire them for so little.

It certainly would be interesting to see some of those attraction ideas resurface as a way to utilize the value of the Muppet characters in more ways.
 

Lynx04

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This was a rumor that was pushed around when Disney bought the rights for the muppets like stated above. Personally I don't like the muppets, I never did, something about them freaks me out. It seems like a good idea for a small darkride if they needed to beaf up that area.

If this actually happen I would like to see GMR get a major rework. Actually, either way I would like to see GMR get a major rework.
 

FamilyMan

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This was no rumor. It was simply a project (along with the rest of Muppet Studios) that fell by the wayside after Jim died. It's sad really.
 

TTATraveler

Active Member
I think at this point in time, a muppet dark ride is simply a rumor. As others have said there were a lot of plans for the Muppets befor Jim Henson passed away. The muppet merchandising has increased recently, the appearance of the muppets in the Stars in Cars parade, and Kermit and Miss Piggy hosting the xmas parade from DL are definately positive, but I don't think that Disney is ready to go full steam ahead in mass promotion of the Muppets via new attractions.
 

todd13

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Here is a very, very detailed description of the ride, which was in the works but never happened, from JimHillMedia.com:

Anywho ... to understand what the Walt Disney Company may do with the Muppets at Disney-MGM, you need to understand that ...

... "Jim Henson's MuppetVision 3D" was only supposed to be ... the start of things. That the whole backmost corner of Disney/MGM Studio Theme Park wasn't meant to be home to just the Hunchback amphitheater and/or that bland bunch of New York Street facades. But -- had the Disney/Muppet merger (actually) gone through the way it was supposed to -- this part of the park would have become home to Muppet Studios.

Which -- as it turns out -- Muppet Studios would then have been home to Disney-MGM's best ever ride-through attraction: "The Muppet Movie Ride."

So what was supposed to so special about this "Muppet Movie Ride" thingy?

This was going to be *THE* ride for Disney/MGM. The one that -- barring all others -- you *HAD TO* see during your day at the theme park. A "Pirates of the Caribbean" for the 1990s. An epic attraction that would have featured elaborate set pieces, amazing special effects as well as dozens upon dozens of audio-animatronic Muppets.

I hear you "Tower of Terror" fans mumbling out there. "Better than Twilight Zone Tower of Terror?," you say. "No way." Yes way, guys. "The Muppet Movie Ride" was going to be just as technically advanced as TZTOT. Only -- instead of thrilling -- this Disney/MGM attraction was going to be funny.

Lord, was the "Muppet Movie Ride" going to be funny! Not just "fall-down funny" or "______-in-your-pants funny," but "I'm-going-to-have-to-ride-this-thing-a-dozen-or-more-times-to-make-sure-I-get-all-the-gags" funny.

Why was the "Muppet Movie Ride" going to be so much fun? Because it was going to have the Muppets do what they did so well so many times on "The Muppet Show": (Which was) send up great old movies as well as reveal all the behind-the-scenes chaos that went on whenever the Muppets tried to put on a show.

Personally, I think that one of the funnier aspects of Disney/MGM's proposed "Muppet Movie Ride" ride is that this attraction was clearly a parody of another ride at that same theme park: "The Great Movie Ride." Just like at the show that was being presented just up the street inside the Chinese Theater, guests would slowly glide through the enormous show building aboard giant theater cars past these highly detailed recreations of great moments from famous Hollywood films.

Only in the Muppet version, something just off-screen would go wrong ... and then the fun would begin.

Take -- for instance -- the tribute to Hollywood's classic horror films that the Imagineers and Henson wanted to do as part of the ride. This sequence's set was deliberately designed to ape the art direction of James Whale's 1931 version of "Frankenstein." So picture a secret laboratory hidden away in a cobweb-filled dungeon of a huge stone castle. Bizarre electric equipment flickers and sparks in the dark, as the mad scientist makes ready to bring his evil creature to life.

Only in this version of the movie, it's Miss Piggy and Kermit who are the heroes who have just discovered the fiend's lair. As they stand on the stone staircase -- agape with horror -- looking down into the lab, the frog and the pig realize that they're too late. The mad scientist makes ready to throw the switch ...

So who's the mad scientist? Dr. Bunsen Honeydew, of course. Which means that the monster laid out on the slab is -- you guessed it -- Beaker. Only a 10 foot tall version of Beaker with bolts sticking out of his neck.

Okay, that already sounds funny, doesn't it? But just wait 'til you see what's going on behind-the-scenes as this particular sequence in the "Muppet Movie Ride" attraction is being filmed. Our director (Indeed, the host of the entire attraction) is the Great Gonzo. Dressed in a beret and jodhpurs (with his trusty script girl -- Carmella the Chicken -- at his side), Gonzo shouts stage directions to his cast through a megaphone. Rizzo is sitting behind the camera, while Scooter works the boom mic.

This sequence's truly brilliant touch? Fozzie Bear is in charge of the sequence's special effects. But -- in true Fozzie fashion -- things aren't quite going according to plan. Fozzie holds the power cord from the studio's generator (which is evidently powered by two rats running inside an exercise wheel) in one paw and the extension cord that leads to all the electrical equipment in Bunsen's lab in the other. But every time the Bear tries to plug one cable into the other, someone on set accidentally throws the switch.

The consequences were supposed to be as dazzling as they were comical. Fozzie's eyes lwould ight up, his bow-tie would spin around wildly and his fur would stand on end as the electricity surged through his body. With smoke pouring out of his wiggling ears, the world's worst comic would have shouted "Wacka-wacka-wacka!" And our theater car would then roll on into the very next sequence for the ride ...

You get the idea here? Dozens of audio-animatronic Muppets looking just like they did on the TV shows or in the films. Only in three dimension -- cavorting just a few feet away from our theater car.

The idea of working with audio-animatronics really excited Jim Henson. To be honest, it was one of the main reasons that Jim decided to try and merge with Disney: The possibility of telling new stories with the Muppets that would make full use of all the snazzy theme park technologies that Walt Disney Imagineering had cooked up over the years.

Henson -- who'd always been a heavy-duty technology nut (Remember Waldo, the "Spirit of 3D" who's featured so prominently in "Jim Henson's MuppetVision 3D"? That computer generated character -- who's full name is Waldo C. Graphic, by the way -- was originally created for 1989's "The Jim Henson Hour." Jim pushed for the development of Waldo because he became fascinated with the entertainment possibilities that grew out of CGI characters interacting in real time with the traditional Muppet family) -- thought that using AA with the Muppets could move the fun to a whole new level.

Why? Well, listen to the explanation that Jim gave to "Disney News" back in the spring of 1990 as part of an interview with Disney publicist John McClintock. In particular, pay attention to how excited Henson sounds:

"This is a form of technology I've never been into before, and it's as if these characters were designed to be audio-animatronics," (Jim) now says enthusiastically. "When we try to do a live person or a cartoon character as an Audio-Animatronic figure, we're changing medium. We're trying to turn a person or a cartoon character into something plastic or fabric. But when we take puppets into Audio-Animatronics, we're staying in the same medium. These characters were created in these three-dimensional forms, so we should be able to use them in park attractions in a way that will still look very authentic."

After you read this, that's when you realize that "Jim Henson's MuppetVision" -- with its 20 or so Muppets that make appearances in the show through the magic of Audio-Animatronics -- was really just a test. A dry run, if you will, for all the fun stuff that Henson wanted to try and do on the Muppet Movie Ride. When Jim could create room after room full of Audio-Animatronic pigs, frogs and bears who were ready to do his zany bidding.

Speaking of which, let's get back to that description of sequences from "The Muppet Movie Ride," shall we? After all, the sci-fi scene was sure to be a big hit with all you Miss Piggy fans out there.

Why for? Because that sequence in the proposed Disney / MGM attraction was going to take you on the soundstage where a big screen version of "Pigs in Space" TV show was being filmed. And our theater car was going to roll right through the middle of the set where the intrepid crew of U.S.S. Swinetrek was locked in mortal combat with a scurvy bunch of space pirates.

Sorry. Excuse me. I mis-spoke myself there. The above sentence has a teeny tiny typo. I didn't really mean to write "space pirates." I meant to type "space pie-rats."

Rats. As in Rizzo and all his relatives.

So picture -- on one side of the soundstage -- a full-sized version of the U.S.S. Swinetrek. Link Hogthrob, Dr. Julius Strangepork and Piggy -- all dressed in spacesuits and wearing clear plastic helmets -- stand on the exterior of their spaceship, laser pistols blazing away. On the other side of the soundstage ... Well, picture a space-going Spanish Galleon. Covered with rats who are dressed as -- well -- space pirates. Striped bandanas tied around their heads, cutlasses in their teeth. Also with laser pistols a-blazing.

Our theater car goes right through the thick of the battle. With laser blasts flying all over the place, rats swinging on ropes -- just out of reach over our heads -- as the rodents try to board the Swinetrek. It's a wild, wild scene.

And maybe even a little dangerous. For -- as we 'round the corner and head off to the next soundstage -- we see Statler and Waldorf in their golf cart. (These two elderly hecklers were supposed to have been a running gag for the Muppet Movie Ride. Literally. At various moments in the attraction, Statler and Waldorf were supposed to have rolled up next to our theater car, offered a few caustic comments, then zoomed off into the darkness again.) It seems that a stray shot from one of those laser pistols has sliced the curmudgeons' golf cart right down the middle. The only thing that's now keeping the vehicle from falling apart is that Statler and Waldorf are now holding hands.

Funny, right? It gets better.

How could the Muppets possibly top a scene that puts you right in the middle of an epic space battle? How about a scene where Kermit and Co. make fun of the Mouse?

Picture -- if you will -- that your theater car now rolls on to a soundstage where the nursery set from Disney's 1953 animated classic, "Peter Pan," has been lovingly recreated down to the last detail. As we arrive, Peter has just taught the Darling children that when "you think of the happiest things, it's the same as having wings."

Only these aren't exactly the characters as we remember seeing them in Disney's animated classic. Sure, the costumes look the same. Only ... Since when is Peter Pan played by Kermit the Frog? Wendy by Janice (the girl singer from the Muppet's house band, Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem)? The be-spectacled and top-hatted John is played by Scooter. And -- dressed in footie pajamas and clutching a teddy bear -- Fozzie Bear plays Michael.

Each of these Muppet characters hang from painfully obvious flying rigs, wires which are secured to elaborate pulley rigs which dangle down from the ceiling of the soundstage. Rat technicians high above tend to these rigs, which allow Kermit, Janice, Scooter and Fozzie to gently bob up and down in the air.

But wait! Didn't Tinker Bell play an important part in the "You Can Fly" number in Disney's version of "Peter Pan"? Sure she did. Which is why the Muppet's grand dame -- Miss Piggy -- has strapped on a pair of wings and squeezed herself into a tiny spangly green gown to try and play the flying fairy.

Only -- in poor Miss Piggy's case -- there have obviously been some problems with her flying rig. As the hog sized holes in the scenery can attest to, the crew seems to have had trouble controlling this over-sized sprite once she gets up in the air. As our theater car goes 'round the corner, we see that there's about a half dozen rats along with Sweetums -- straining to hang on to Miss Piggy's control rope as she swoops through the air.

With Miss Piggy screaming at Gonzo to get her down, our theater car moves on ...

You see? "The Muppet Movie Ride" would have been a comic triumph. A real break-through for the Disney theme parks. An attraction that was just as ambitious as "Pirates of the Caribbean" and "The Haunted Mansion." But funny.

Of course, with two great Muppet-themed attractions within 100 feet of one another, it stands to reason that Muppet Studios deserves a great Muppet-themed restaurant. Well, the building that was supposed to have housed this particular eatery actually did get built. It was thrown up -- along with the "Stage 1 Company Store" and the "It's a Wonderful Store" retail areas -- while construction was being completed on the main "Jim Henson's MuppetVision 3D" theater complex.

These days, the restaurant is known as Mama Melrose's Ristorante Italiano. The cobbled-together interior suggests that this building was once a warehouse that some enterprising soul tried to turn into an Italian restaurant. (And a pretty good one at that. My friends and I usually make a point of dining at Mama Melrose whenever we're visiting Disney / MGM. You just can't beat its mix of quirky atmosphere and great cuisine.)

That said, I still miss the restaurant that was originally supposed to be installed in this building. For this is the place that Muppet fans would have killed to be able to eat at: "The Great Gonzo's Pandemonium Pizza Parlor."

The backstory for this eatery was simple: Just like Arnold, Bruce and Sly did in the early 1990s, Gonzo and Rizzo decided to go into the celebrity restaurant business. They hired the Swedish Chef to run the kitchen for them. And the rest ... Well, while it wasn't exactly history. But it was still going to be great fun.

The walls of this restaurant -- just like the interior lobby area of "Jim Henson's MuppetVision 3D" -- would have been covered with recreations of props from various Muppet movies. TV monitors would hang down from the support beams of the restaurant. Just like in Planet Hollywood, diners would get to watch clips from various Muppet movies and TV shows. Every so often, there'd be a live broadcast from the kitchen -- where Gonzo and Rizzo would assure that things were going great and that our food would be out shortly.

Only -- based on what was going on in the background of these scenes that were supposed shot in the kitchen -- things were clearly *NOT* going great. We'd watch as lobster banditos escaped from their pots and held the waitstaff hostage, or observe as the Swedish Chef was suddenly attacked by a very large -- and very lively -- mound of pizza dough. Better yet, we'd watch as Carmella was suddenly sucked up into the exhaust fan over the stove, then watch as Gonzo climbed in after her. Then -- out in the main room of the restaurant -- we'd laugh because we could hear Gonzo and Carmella in the air conditioning ducts right over our heads, stumbling around in the dark, trying to find one another.

You see? The Great Gonzo's Pandemonium Pizza Parlor -- with its kitchen doors that would occasionally belch open, sending great clouds of smoke and chicken feathers into the dining room -- was going to be a great place to eat while visiting the Muppet Studios section of Disney / MGM.

Even the throw-away details on this side of the park were going to be fun for Muppet fans. That fake fish market that's currently located right next door to "It's a Wonderful Store"? That was supposed to be Lew Zealand's Boomerang Fish Market. If you listened very carefully as you walked on by, you were supposed to be able to hear Lew practicing behind closed doors. And -- every so often -- the Muppet-tized fish in the window were supposed to spin around in the ice and/or say awful fish-based puns to one another.


Here is an article with some concept photos:
http://www.jimhillmedia.com/mb/articles/showarticle.php?ID=1211
 

MagicalMonorail

New Member
Well, the Disney stockholder thing that I have says the Muppets currently have some theme park attractions in the works. It didn't give any specifics, but it is official.
 

General Grizz

New Member
Someone just told me that it WAS in the works, and I can't remember who. It was only rumor, though.

I did get word in, though, that in a couple years, when the contract between MGM/Disney expires, the Great Movie Ride will have to be significantly altered to remove the MGM-based scenes. . .

Hm.
 

DCL

Active Member
I thought that the contract already expired, or something to that extent, which is why it's now Disney Studios, instead of Disney-MGM Studios.... or am I way off base here??
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
General Grizz said:
The Great Movie Ride will have to be significantly altered to remove the MGM-based scenes. . .

Hm.
Um, Grizz, which movie are those exactly?

Sorry, I'm a child of 1990. All I know is the Wizard of Oz (which was my favorite but now only one of my favorite scenes :( ).
 

DCL

Active Member
yensidtlaw1969 said:
Um, Grizz, which movie are those exactly?

Sorry, I'm a child of 1990. All I know is the Wizard of Oz (which was my favorite but now only one of my favorite scenes :( ).

Well most of the movies in there are MGM ones... off the top of my head there's Singin' In the Rain, Casablanca, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and I would assume any non-Disney movie on the ride would be an MGM movie as well.
 

Scruffy

New Member
Dreamflight4Eva said:
Well most of the movies in there are MGM ones... off the top of my head there's Singin' In the Rain, Casablanca, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and I would assume any non-Disney movie on the ride would be an MGM movie as well.

Not all of the movies in the Great Movie ride are MGM movies. Raiders Of the Lost Ark is a Lucasfilm owned movie.
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
Let's see here:

Footlight Parade

Singin in the Rain

Mary Poppins

The Public Enemy

The Good, the Bad, the ugly

Alien

Raiders of the Lost Ark

Tarzan the Ape Man

Casablanca

Fantasia

Wizard of Oz

and film finale

Some of those are gonna be romoved?! I hope not.
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
Hold on a second, if they break up with MGM, couldn't they just simply buy the rights to keep the MGM scenes in? If they take away the MGM scenes, it would probably be turned into "The Great Disney movie ride" or something. That would be very depressing.

Sorry for the double post.
 

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