Mulan coming to Disney+

[Disney Irish]

VHS copies of old movies still sell so do lazer discs. some retro stores make good living selling those but my point is whether its vhs, lazer disc, dvd/ blu ray , 4k blu ray physical media of movies has and will alwasy exist no matter the format. people want to own them.

And what data do you have to backup your assertion that "people" want to own them in the mass quantities that makes it worth it for media companies to continue this distribution model long term?

Also secondary markets of collectors buying VHS and LaserDiscs created 30 years ago don't count. This is about new releases of physical media going forward. When was the last time a movie was released on VHS or LaserDisc?

i don't need to do research. i am not writing a paper.

And I don't have to provide you any further information. You haven't provided anything to backup your assertions. But yet several others have provided more than enough information to prove your claims are not founded.

 

[Tony Perkis]

Games are even less reliable than movies when it comes to owning them permanently. I have PS2 games that are worthless because my PS2 is long dead, and it would be a hassle to track down a system. In contrast, the latest XBox as an example can play digital games from previous systems, so I actually feel more comfortable owning digital games.

I would agree until recently, except the current generation of games uses discs as access to download and verify ownership.

 

[Disney Irish]

I would agree, except the current generation of games uses discs as access to download and verify ownership.

Couldn't the same be done with digital keys?

 

[Tony Perkis]

Couldn't the same be done with digital keys?

Yes, but a physical key will always outweigh a digital key because a digital key can be rendered useless via coding and expiration dates.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yes, but a physical key will always outweigh a digital key because a digital key can be rendered useless via coding and expiration dates.

I guess it all depends on what the gaming companies want to push, physical or digital. Long term my bet is digital.

 

[Tony Perkis]

I guess it all depends on what the gaming companies want to push, physical or digital. Long term my bet is digital.

Absolutely. I just don’t trust them enough for them to make those decisions based on a whim and an internet connection.

 

[Disney Irish]

I posted this in the other thread, but the story has now been picked up by more mainstream media:

Disney May Be Abandoning 4K Physical Releases Of Catalog Titles, Disney Denies Plans To Discontinue 4K Releases [Updated] - SlashFilm

The studio has halted production on future Disney 4K physical media releases in their catalog, which also extends to the entire 20th Century Fox library.

www.slashfilm.com

 

[Disney Irish]

Absolutely. I just don’t trust them enough for them to make those decisions based on a whim and an internet connection.

There will always be individuals such as yourself that would prefer physical over digital with their media. However as we all know industries don't make decisions based on an individual. So the long term trend does appear to be digital.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

And what data do you have to backup your assertion that "people" want to own them in the mass quantities that makes it worth it for media companies to continue this distribution model long term?

People keep buying them and they keep making them.

 

[Disney Irish]

People keep buying them and they keep making them.

What are the sales figures you're using to show that?

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

And what data do you have to backup your assertion that "people" want to own them in the mass quantities that makes it worth it for media companies to continue this distribution model long term?

Also secondary markets of collectors buying VHS and LaserDiscs created 30 years ago don't count. This is about new releases of physical media going forward. When was the last time a movie was released on VHS or LaserDisc?


And I don't have to provide you any further information. You haven't provided anything to backup your assertions. But yet several others have provided more than enough information to prove your claims are not founded.

i only challenged your claim that there are back cata;pgie not that are not on physical media and i called your bluff on that and asked for an example which you provided that i disproved proving my point.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

What are the sales figures you're using to show that?

the fact that there are new movies being released on tuesdays also some older ones. we are about to get a 4k release of back to the future. they dont do that if people dont buy em son.

 

[Disney Irish]

i only challenged your claim that there are back cata;pgie not that are not on physical media and i called your bluff on that and asked for an example which you provided that i disproved proving my point.

Its not a bluff. Fight Club has not been released on 4k, and based on reports isn't going to be released on 4k now that Disney is stopping 4k releases of older content.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

People keep buying them and they keep making them.

In less and less numbers over time.

None of us know for sure when or if physical media will go away completely, but the trends are clear and Disney no longer releasing catalog titles on 4K disc is telling.

 

[Disney Irish]

the fact that there are new movies being released on tuesdays also some older ones. we are about to get a 4k release of back to the future. they dont do that if people dont buy em son.

Are the year-over-years sales on physical media up or down? What is the trend for the last 5 years?

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Are the year-over-years sales on physical media up or down? What is the trend for the last 5 years?

We're not writing papers here!

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

We're not writing papers here!

That's right I'm not.

 

[Disney Irish]

We're not writing papers here!

Actually I am, I need more reference material.....

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Are the year-over-years sales on physical media up or down? What is the trend for the last 5 years?

I doesn't matter if they are down or up. They are not going away ever.

 

[Disney Irish]

I doesn't matter if they are down or up. They are not going away ever.

Ah, so you can dish it out but can't take it I see.

And actually it does matter, because that is how businesses like Disney make decisions.

But its ok my friend. I'm not here to break down your door and take your discs.

In reality I think you're actually partially right. Just like there is a collectors market for vinyl, VHS, and other forms of outdated media. I believe there will be one for Blu-Ray and 4k UHD here very soon. So yes in that sense it'll never go away, as there will always be collectors. But new releases, over time that will diminish in favor of all digital media.