Move It! Shake It! to Run at Night

Bandini

Well-Known Member
Ah ok, I do have to respond to this one.
With 3 simple questions-
Do you think enjoying Move It Shake It with your family equals "accepting something that is mediocre" and perpetuating the mediocrity?
Or could it just be that people enjoy the moment that they are in, and don't need to constantly compare it to 'what was'?
Do people who enjoy this parade with their family deserve the kind of response that was given on the first few pages?

Your last point- think about it. It speaks volumes, and it's why I can't understand the comments from quite a few here.
Someone mentioned "priorities" as in a Disney vacation should be skipped to prove a point.. taking priority over a child's experience there. Yeah, call me obtuse for thinking that's bat shoot crazy.
I intensely dislike the Move It Shake It parade. It is too loud and it's a joke in comparison to other Disney parades. I wouldn't even rate it as mediocre. Do I care if others really like this parade? No. I just go to a different area in the park.
But once again, you are the only person who mentioned " a Disney vacation should be skipped to prove a point" No one else said that.
 

21stamps

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I intensely dislike the Move It Shake It parade. It is too loud and it's a joke in comparison to other Disney parades. I wouldn't even rate it as mediocre. Do I care if others really like this parade? No. I just go to a different area in the park.
But once again, you are the only person who mentioned " a Disney vacation should be skipped to prove a point" No one else said that.
Or you could decide to skip your WDW vacation in hopes that the night time parade will be restored. I guess it' depends on each person's priorities.

Ok.. I really have to go...there's plenty of posts that you can read through...specifically talking about "owning it". Have fun in the spin zone.
 

Angel Ariel

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Yes, we should tell our children "Don't enjoy this parade! Boycott Disney by wrecking your own time in MK! That'll show them!"

Ps. I never saw anyone lining up for a phantom MSEP.

No one's saying to tell children they can't enjoy it. It's quite possible that children can enjoy and like Move It, Shake It while (simultaneously) the adults do not and the adults make their feelings known to TDO. It doesn't have to be such a black and white issue.
 

Angel Ariel

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I have no idea what you do while there. You're the one who chimed in in the "enjoying something (the only option) is accepting mediocracy" bandwagon.

It doesn't matter how much you go.. but, if you want to make a point to Disney, then don't go. People "rolling their eyes" are not making any more of an impact than the people who are choosing to enjoy something. If everyone did that then maybe it would, but it's probably a safe bet that most people would choose having fun ...and dance around with their children, as opposed to rolling their eyes.

Tell that to Disneyland people. Disneyland locals make their voice heard. They make their complaints to guest relations/the company known, they back it up with their actions, and many times TDA actually listens. Just a few examples I can think of off the top of my head...when they wanted to axe Aladdin back in the 2008/9ish timeline to bring in a Toy Story musical. Backlash caused TDA to change their mind and keep Aladdin around until it closed in 2016. I also remember an issue with BBB no longer having Photopass photographers to take pictures during the experience (can't remember if this was DLR, WDW, or both). People complained, asked for refunds, etc - and Disney reversed course. I also would not be surprised if RDCT has now returned because they were getting backlash about the "lesser" Fantasy in the Sky show that replaced DLF.

It isn't like the people making these complaints aren't having fun while in the park. They are. But they have issues with certain things as well, and they make them known. Will Disney listen and back track every time? No, of course not. No one's suggesting that. But just accepting whatever it is they are choosing to do (in this case, replace a nighttime spectacle with another showing of an afternoon dance party), will never result in changes. Disney won't change anything if they don't have a reason to think it's a problem...and they have no reason to think there's an issue if no one ever says anything to them.
 

Angel Ariel

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Why would people wait for a parade that isn't anywhere on the times guides or website ?
TBH, I don't feel like many people...especially "newer" Disney guests, or first time guests, actually pay attention to the Times Guides. They've heard about all of these things for so long, that they just expect they'll be there and they head to Main Street to wait.
 

Angel Ariel

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The old 'ignorant first time traveler' reason? People who went on the website to buy tickets, maybe purchase hotel rooms..but never thought to click on the huge picture of what's going on in the park? Didn't take a times guide or map when handed to them., Or look at times of opening/closing/parades/shows...? But somehow they made it to MK...?

Doubtful..but there's always the possibility..

Most of the non-Disney friends that I help plan trips to WDW do not do much research into what's going on in the park before they get there. They assume it's a lot like Busch Gardens, or Six Flags, and they'll just show up and maybe get a map when they enter and then they'll just go about their day enjoying whatever it is they come across. It's generally a big shock when I mention suggestions like looking at the park schedule before they get there.
 

Bandini

Well-Known Member
Most of the non-Disney friends that I help plan trips to WDW do not do much research into what's going on in the park before they get there. They assume it's a lot like Busch Gardens, or Six Flags, and they'll just show up and maybe get a map when they enter and then they'll just go about their day enjoying whatever it is they come across. It's generally a big shock when I mention suggestions like looking at the park schedule before they get there.
Yup same here. Most of my friends look up the park hours and that's about it. Same thing they would do when visiting a museum. But how many people go beyond that?
 

Angel Ariel

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It has nothing to do with being up to date on Disney minutiae. It's about knowing where you're going. That could be Six Flags, Cedar Fair, Universal, or WDW.. or a zoo, museum, aquarium, shopping mall...etc etc etc.
pretty much any place that you are heading to...
I guess I just give people way too much credit.
All of the smartphones in that photo and none had the MDE app? Or checked the website for any times? How did they know when anything started? How did they know what time the park opened? I just find it hard to believe that the masses are as ignorant as people here paint them to be.
Do you honestly not check times and events when you are going somewhere? We drove 4 hours round trip to a science museum two weeks ago..a portion of the cost of one day at Disney. I'm not on the museum message boards..I don't follow them on FB or twitter... but I definitely checked their hours, show times, and grabbed a map and times guide upon arrival.
I noticed many other people with them as well..
We must be crazy for paying attention to such minutiae.

I took my daughter to the nearest aquarium earlier this week (it's about 1.5 hrs away from us, more like 2 with traffic. We spent 4.5 hrs in the car that day b/c of traffic). We are members of the Aquarium (thank you, grandparents), but have only been to member nights, never during the day. I did not check hours before I left, I did not check show times before I left. I did take a look at the screen that had times on it for various events throughout the day when I got there, but that's it. We didn't beeline for any of them...we just took our time going through the aquarium, and if we got to one of the event places in time to see the event, we stopped. If we didn't, we just moved on.

Do I check hours for the local zoo or mall? Nope. We just show up and go. We went to a kiddie theme park a few hours away from us last summer, and we just showed up and bought tickets and went in to enjoy ourselves. Didn't check hours, didn't check show times...just walked around and enjoyed ourselves however we felt like at the time. We didn't arrive til the afternoon, and even though it was a crowded summer weekend we didn't wait more than 15 mins for any ride (no FP, or anything like FP, so lines moved very quickly).

While we do plan more for WDW and DLR vacations, we do so because we know it's more necessary there - NOT because that's how we approach going everywhere. In our experience, nowhere else requires the same kind of advanced planning as WDW. Not even going overseas.
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
Tell that to Disneyland people. Disneyland locals make their voice heard. They make their complaints to guest relations/the company known, they back it up with their actions, and many times TDA actually listens. Just a few examples I can think of off the top of my head...when they wanted to axe Aladdin back in the 2008/9ish timeline to bring in a Toy Story musical. Backlash caused TDA to change their mind and keep Aladdin around until it closed in 2016. I also remember an issue with BBB no longer having Photopass photographers to take pictures during the experience (can't remember if this was DLR, WDW, or both). People complained, asked for refunds, etc - and Disney reversed course. I also would not be surprised if RDCT has now returned because they were getting backlash about the "lesser" Fantasy in the Sky show that replaced DLF.

It isn't like the people making these complaints aren't having fun while in the park. They are. But they have issues with certain things as well, and they make them known. Will Disney listen and back track every time? No, of course not. No one's suggesting that. But just accepting whatever it is they are choosing to do (in this case, replace a nighttime spectacle with another showing of an afternoon dance party), will never result in changes. Disney won't change anything if they don't have a reason to think it's a problem...and they have no reason to think there's an issue if no one ever says anything to them.

On the WDW side, guests speaking up just caused a reversal of changes made to the Highway in the Sky dining event just weeks after it began. If everyone just stayed quiet in the face of those downgrades, it never would have been returned to its original form.
 

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