Most expensive ride built at WDW.

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
Hmm, as I have never seen anyone on any Disney site claim that they had enough shares for Disney to let them know how much money was being spent on specific attractions I would be a little sceptical. Has anyone ever heard of Disney letting certain shareholders know what specific attractions and enhancements at all the theme parks cost?

You have all also noticed that he forcefully states that he's been 'informed' that attractions cost a certain amount, then later says he can't see how they could have cost more than a certain amount, right? He's also wrong about ToT and TT having already-existing and relatively cheap ride systems: these attractions have two of the most complex ride systems ever developed by Disney and they were developed for these new attractions.

Who knows I guess, but I'd personally treat it as guess work.
 

jmicro59

Member
Rayray said:
Stop beating up on Thrawn. He is probably right if he is a shareholder. SEC, public disclosure, yadayadayada. Disney is obligated to share thier expenses with shareholders.

Awe c'mon please, can't I keep doing it?
I also am a share holder in Disney Inc and am well aware of the do's and don't of financial information disclousers and Disney reports to all share holders, weather you have one share or a billion shares on company financials.
 

jmicro59

Member
Sir_Cliff said:
Hmm, as I have never seen anyone on any Disney site claim that they had enough shares for Disney to let them know how much money was being spent on specific attractions I would be a little sceptical. Has anyone ever heard of Disney letting certain shareholders know what specific attractions and enhancements at all the theme parks cost?

You have all also noticed that he forcefully states that he's been 'informed' that attractions cost a certain amount, then later says he can't see how they could have cost more than a certain amount, right? He's also wrong about ToT and TT having already-existing and relatively cheap ride systems: these attractions have two of the most complex ride systems ever developed by Disney and they were developed for these new attractions.

Who knows I guess, but I'd personally treat it as guess work.

Here, here Sir Cliff, I agree.
 

MickeyTigg

New Member
I'm a share holder too...I don't get any privileged information. Then again, we only have 30 shares (I don't mind telling you that), not the humongous number of shares that Thrawn must have in order to be declared a "minority owner"....maybe they tell them more than they would bother to tell me.

:rolleyes:
 

Thrawn

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TiggerRPh said:
I'm a share holder too...I don't get any privileged information. Then again, we only have 30 shares (I don't mind telling you that), not the humongous number of shares that Thrawn must have in order to be declared a "minority owner"....maybe they tell them more than they would bother to tell me.

:rolleyes:

In order to be a minority shareholder of TWDC, you need to own at least a certain percentage of the outstanding shares. I don't know if I can disclose that percentage, so I won't. Just note that there are over 2 billion outstanding WDC shares, so 30 or even 3000 isn't anything of note.

If anyone doesn't believe me, thats your right, but I have mentioned this before in previous threads.
 

Thrawn

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Sir_Cliff said:
You have all also noticed that he forcefully states that he's been 'informed' that attractions cost a certain amount, then later says he can't see how they could have cost more than a certain amount, right? He's also wrong about ToT and TT having already-existing and relatively cheap ride systems: these attractions have two of the most complex ride systems ever developed by Disney and they were developed for these new attractions.

TT = Enhanced EMV. Previously developed before Test Track.

As I said from the beginning, ToT predates my information, so I am guessing on that one.

jmicro59 said:
also am a share holder in Disney Inc

A shareholder in Disney Inc? Uh, whats that?
 

jmicro59

Member
TiggerRPh said:
I'm a share holder too...I don't get any privileged information. Then again, we only have 30 shares (I don't mind telling you that), not the humongous number of shares that Thrawn must have in order to be declared a "minority owner"....maybe they tell them more than they would bother to tell me.

:rolleyes:
Not saying you're wrong but you do get the info you probably just don't read it, my quarterly packet comes filled with many documents and most admittedly I do not read but keep in mind it's a publicly traded company and they are required buy law to disclose all financial information.
 

jmicro59

Member
Thrawn said:
In order to be a minority shareholder of TWDC, you need to own at least a certain percentage of the outstanding shares. I don't know if I can disclose that percentage, so I won't. Just note that there are over 2 billion outstanding WDC shares, so 30 or even 3000 isn't anything of note.

If anyone doesn't believe me, thats your right, but I have mentioned this before in previous threads.

Ok then, I am now exercising my Thrawn given rights to not believe.
 

MickeyTigg

New Member
jmicro59 said:
Not saying you're wrong but you do get the info you probably just don't read it, my quarterly packet comes filled with many documents and most admittedly I do not read but keep in mind it's a publicly traded company and they are required buy law to disclose all financial information.

I'm well aware of that....I'm guessing that "Minority Owner" status must get more information.

BTW - I do read my quarterly and annual reports.

Why would Thrawn make this up? Surely not to impress us....we are already impressed with him...aren't we?
 

wdwmagic

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Premium Member
Thrawn said:
TT = Enhanced EMV. Previously developed before Test Track.

TT is very different to the EMV.

- Its high speed, more inline with a coaster (as opposed to low speed of EMV).
- Has no motion base.
- It follows a slotted track, rather than self guided.
 

jmicro59

Member
Thrawn said:
TT = Enhanced EMV. Previously developed before Test Track.

As I said from the beginning, ToT predates my information, so I am guessing on that one.

And a shareholder in Disney Inc? Uh, whats that?

Sorry oh great Thrawn Iused slang for NYSE symbol DIS. I won't let it happen again.
 

jmicro59

Member
TiggerRPh said:
I'm well aware of that....I'm guessing that "Minority Owner" status must get more information.

BTW - I do read my quarterly and annual reports.

Why would Thrawn make this up? Surely not to impress us....we are already impressed with him...aren't we?

I'm not talking down to you, please know that, but my point is that all share holders, no matter of their share volume have access to all company financial data that concern that public company.
As to why someone would make up stuff, well the human psyche is a funny thing and some people crave attention or a presumed position of power such as “minority owner”, for all we know Thrawn is a 10 year old kid. Heck I could be George W Bush for that matter. I have a lot of respect for most people on this board. I don’t post to much as you can see by my number of posts since 2002 but I try to not compete with people on things such as these. A man is measured by what he knows, not what he says. And for me Thrawn is someone who needs to not “compete” with everyone to show how much he knows all the time.
 

sabian

New Member
You know, Test Track may have cost that much after everything it had gone through. I mean, the attraction was supposed to open 2 years prior to when it actually opened. Initial costs may not have been that much, but, I can see how two additional years of engineering and mechanics could quickly skyrocket the overall cost of getting the attraction open. Wife and I went for our Honeymoon in 1996 when the ride was to open, and i had to wait until 1998 to finally ride it.:wave:
 

Madison

New Member
animal_king1990 said:
Actually flume rides only cost about a million dollars. The theming for Splash Mountain would have only costed around $20 million at most.

It's often best not to make things up arbitrarily and completely. :)

There are precious few flume rides in the world that can compete with the scale and complexity of Splash Mountain. In fact, the only one that immediately springs to mind, as it's the only I've had direct interaction with, is Dudley Do-Right's Ripsaw Falls at Islands of Adventure. There are a handful of others that might be fairly compared to Splash Mountain as well, but are not so obviously related.

For example, there is for sale a used, portable flume ride at the low, low cost of only $625,000 as seen here - http://www.italintl.com/detail_page.php?record_id=208. That flume is the sort typically hauled around by only the largest carnival operators and sometimes erected permanently in small parks.

I don't think I'd be climbing out too far on a limb to say that you're quite young. It's probably wise that you accept now that you do not know what things "costed," as it were, and instead observe some of the nice folks here who will very discreetly and kindly share interesting information to those who have a liking for some of the behind the scenes magic that makes Disney tick.
 

Madison

New Member
Huge Dreamer said:
topping the $75-million spent for a coaster in Las Vegas."
A coaster which, to my knowledge, doesn't exist. :) I'd not be surprised if the most expensive single roller coaster built to date was Raging Spirits in Tokyo. It was an astonishing ~$70M, though I can't imagine why or how. The ride system itself, a turn-key solution, couldn't represent more than 5% of that cost, if that much.

animal_king1990 said:
Actually, I'm 36 years old.

Then you're just a bit naive where the amusement industry is concerned. That shouldn't be and is not surprising. It's not as if everyone deals with this sort of thing each day.

Hell, I don't even deal with it directly. I am simply fortunate to have been able to sit in a corner and listen to some very bright, very passionate people talk about their work.

You can find some of those folks here; Corrus, Lee, Yensid, et. al. I can't imagine that you could have ever worked for or with Disney if you weren't passionate about your work -- and passionate people love to talk about what they do. Well, I think that's true for as long as scary, fame-obsessed internet people don't scare them off. Don't be that guy :)
 

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