Most expensive ride built at WDW.

wdwishes2005

New Member
forgive me if i am wrong but isnt ToT just to drop towers with a cart that moves horizontally?
http://www.towerofterror.org/images/diagram_mgmside.JPG

the main ride vehicle loads in the first shaft, then leaves the first drop shaft vehicle, then moves forward into another shaft, which has the drop tower like car in it, you roll into that car lock in place and drop with the vehicle, right? not denying the complexity of the ride, but essentially they have two freefall rides right?
 

wdwishes2005

New Member
i know its incredibly complex, but what i am saying is that i think it was just a re-adaption of previous ride systems, with some VERY good modifications.
 

Montu

New Member
wdwishes2005 said:
i know its incredibly complex, but what i am saying is that i think it was just a re-adaption of previous ride systems, with some VERY good modifications.

It has nothing to do with any other previous ride system.

Unless your arguement is because it has a drop - which, by your logic, that would make Tower of Terror a rip off of Pirates of the Caribbean as well.
 

wdwishes2005

New Member
Montu said:
Unless your arguement is because it has a drop - which, by your logic, that would make Tower of Terror a rip off of Pirates of the Caribbean as well.

trust me,i am not THAT dumb.

anyway, what i guess i should be asking, is besides the horizontal movement, what makes ToT different than other free fall rides?
 

jimaginator

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Adjust for Inflation

I would suggest that any comparison of ride costs be adjusted for inflation. Mission Space surely would beat out a lot of older rides, but for all we know, Splash Mountain could be the winner depending on the year it was built. IMHO.:wave:
 

Madison

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wdwishes2005 said:
forgive me if i am wrong but isnt ToT just to drop towers with a cart that moves horizontally?
http://www.towerofterror.org/images/diagram_mgmside.JPG

the main ride vehicle loads in the first shaft, then leaves the first drop shaft vehicle, then moves forward into another shaft, which has the drop tower like car in it, you roll into that car lock in place and drop with the vehicle, right? not denying the complexity of the ride, but essentially they have two freefall rides right?

Imagine each elevator, where people are seated, as a ride vehicle and each of the six shafts, if we're talking about Florida's Tower, as a lift hill. The ride system has practically nothing in common with most modern freefall systems. Some parallels can be drawn between the Tower and an S&S Combo tower, but they are superficial at best. In reality, we're actually talking about two ride systems side by side as a matter of note.

The elevators, like EMVs in some respects, "drive themselves." They are not guided by rail in any horizontal movement and instead follow a wire beneath the floor. I presume, though am not sure, that they can detect and follow a magnetic field. My understanding is that most often when the ride is inoperable, it is due to a problem with the wire-based navigation. Oddly enough, this is probably the oldest type of technology in the attraction and was first used, if I recall correctly, on a train attraction along the New Jersey shore that was developed by Arrow Dynamics. My copy of the book "Roller Coasters, Flumes, & Flying Saucers" is 3000 miles away, so I can't verify the details.

The six shafts -- three per ride system, for those keeping track at home -- are actually elevators and were developed in part with the help of the Otis Elevator Company, the original inventor of the elevator. They are among the most powerful elevators in the world, rivaling those at the Hancock Building in Chicago, among others. The independent elevator ride vehicles move, as you described, into the elevator shafts and complete the drop profile.

It may not seem like there's much to it, but it's a pretty amazing system, all things considered -- more amazing still when you consider that there are multiple elevators moving through the building at any given time.
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
Another point worth mentioning is that the elevators don't simply drop, but are in fact pulled down the shaft.

I would have imagined that Splash would be up there with the most expensive. It's a long, heavily-themed ride with a reasonably complex ride system. If my memory serves me correct, I think the WDW version ended up being more expensive than the DL version, which I guess could be in part because at DL they re-purposed a lot of existing audio animatronics from the America Sings show and I'd imagine that there wouldn't have been many left over.

In regards to the earlier question about why people would make things up, if all my years online have taught me anything it's that the world out there is far more interesting than you'd imagine from your day to day interactions with other people in the real world. Whatever forces are at play in their own minds, I've seen people make up all sorts of things and even end up calling police, tracking people down, etc in the real world for all sorts of bizzare reasons. Hell, some of you might remember the relatively minor but still odd article on a certain website recently where the site owner wrote an article in which they apparently interviewed and quoted themselves about Jim Hill being ejected from DL! Nothing should be surprising, least of all someone making some things up on a discussion board.
 

wdwishes2005

New Member
Madison said:
Imagine each elevator, where people are seated, as a ride vehicle and each of the six shafts, if we're talking about Florida's Tower, as a lift hill. The ride system has practically nothing in common with most modern freefall systems. Some parallels can be drawn between the Tower and an S&S Combo tower, but they are superficial at best. In reality, we're actually talking about two ride systems side by side as a matter of note.

The elevators, like EMVs in some respects, "drive themselves." They are not guided by rail in any horizontal movement and instead follow a wire beneath the floor. I presume, though am not sure, that they can detect and follow a magnetic field. My understanding is that most often when the ride is inoperable, it is due to a problem with the wire-based navigation. Oddly enough, this is probably the oldest type of technology in the attraction and was first used, if I recall correctly, on a train attraction along the New Jersey shore that was developed by Arrow Dynamics. My copy of the book "Roller Coasters, Flumes, & Flying Saucers" is 3000 miles away, so I can't verify the details.

The six shafts -- three per ride system, for those keeping track at home -- are actually elevators and were developed in part with the help of the Otis Elevator Company, the original inventor of the elevator. They are among the most powerful elevators in the world, rivaling those at the Hancock Building in Chicago, among others. The independent elevator ride vehicles move, as you described, into the elevator shafts and complete the drop profile.

It may not seem like there's much to it, but it's a pretty amazing system, all things considered -- more amazing still when you consider that there are multiple elevators moving through the building at any given time.

thanks for the explanation! i always enjoy learning more about rides.
 

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